Check these things on hu.wikipedia.org:
See [[Hévízi-tó TT]] (you can find it in recent changes if you're not accent-read), and check "Mi hivatkozik erre" ("who links here"). Nobody.
Now go to [[Magyarország természetvédelmi területei]] (in the recent changes as well), and look for the string "Hévízi-tó TT", and you'll see: the article contains link to the one before. However its link is "red" or "question marked". If you click on it (create a non-existing article) then you'll realise that it does exist, since the editor window contains the actual text.
If I would edit and save the second article I'm sure it'd heal (preview shows it healed) but I don't want to mess it up until someone check what the bug is.
Brion? See anything?
(The article can be fixed, naturally, but the bug should be instead. :-))
Peter Gervai wrote:
We have the same prob on the french wikipedia. look at [[barite]] there is a link in [[baryum]] but if you look in what link here it's empty
Check these things on hu.wikipedia.org:
See [[Hévízi-tó TT]] (you can find it in recent changes if you're not accent-read), and check "Mi hivatkozik erre" ("who links here"). Nobody.
Now go to [[Magyarország természetvédelmi területei]] (in the recent changes as well), and look for the string "Hévízi-tó TT", and you'll see: the article contains link to the one before. However its link is "red" or "question marked". If you click on it (create a non-existing article) then you'll realise that it does exist, since the editor window contains the actual text.
If I would edit and save the second article I'm sure it'd heal (preview shows it healed) but I don't want to mess it up until someone check what the bug is.
Brion? See anything?
(The article can be fixed, naturally, but the bug should be instead. :-)) _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
Seems a bug in the new software version. The following conversation is taken from the english Village pump:
Red link
When I go into the lobster article, American lobster shows up as a red link. But when I click on it, the redirect is already in place. Same problem clicking Pakistan Air Force from Islamabad International Airport. I've tried logging out and using a different browser. - Hephaestos 10:06, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Alas, it looks like the new experimental persistent link caching suffers the same fate as the last similar attempt and isn't getting updated correctly. It's now disabled pending further testing. Force a reload of the page, it should appear correctly. --Brion 10:13, 24 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Ciao, Alfio
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Arnaud G wrote:
Peter Gervai wrote:
We have the same prob on the french wikipedia. look at [[barite]] there is a link in [[baryum]] but if you look in what link here it's empty
Check these things on hu.wikipedia.org:
See [[Hévízi-tó TT]] (you can find it in recent changes if you're not accent-read), and check "Mi hivatkozik erre" ("who links here"). Nobody.
Now go to [[Magyarország természetvédelmi területei]] (in the recent changes as well), and look for the string "Hévízi-tó TT", and you'll see: the article contains link to the one before. However its link is "red" or "question marked". If you click on it (create a non-existing article) then you'll realise that it does exist, since the editor window contains the actual text.
If I would edit and save the second article I'm sure it'd heal (preview shows it healed) but I don't want to mess it up until someone check what the bug is.
Brion? See anything?
(The article can be fixed, naturally, but the bug should be instead. :-)) _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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On Nov 25, 2003, at 03:48, Peter Gervai wrote:
Check these things on hu.wikipedia.org:
See [[Hévízi-tó TT]] (you can find it in recent changes if you're not accent-read), and check "Mi hivatkozik erre" ("who links here"). Nobody.
Various link table bugs that affect Whatlinkshere and link style are a known problem and are being slowly rooted out as they are found.
If you have specific information, please add it to the bug report tracker: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? func=detail&aid=802814&group_id=34373&atid=411192
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Nov 25, 2003, at 03:48, Peter Gervai wrote:
Check these things on hu.wikipedia.org:
See [[Hévízi-tó TT]] (you can find it in recent changes if you're not accent-read), and check "Mi hivatkozik erre" ("who links here"). Nobody.
Various link table bugs that affect Whatlinkshere and link style are a known problem and are being slowly rooted out as they are found.
Might it be an option to every month or every few months re-create the links and blinks tables from the cur table, so that all database inconsistencies of this kind get resolved?
Andre Engels
On Nov 26, 2003, at 01:48, Andre Engels wrote:
Might it be an option to every month or every few months re-create the links and blinks tables from the cur table, so that all database inconsistencies of this kind get resolved?
Yes, E23 is working on making the rebuildlinks script less intrusive so we can do this without shutting everything down for a few hours.
However we do prefer to fix the bugs too. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:48:20AM +0100, Andre Engels wrote:
Might it be an option to every month or every few months re-create the links and blinks tables from the cur table, so that all database inconsistencies of this kind get resolved?
It is the wrong approach. There must not be any inconsistencies of any kind. The bugs should be fixed instead, as Brion mentioned. The current bug in action going to be fixed, the consistency check going to run after that, once, and we keep our eyes open for any new inconsistencies which may be a sign of a next bug to fix.
grin
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Peter Gervai wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:48:20AM +0100, Andre Engels wrote:
Might it be an option to every month or every few months re-create the links and blinks tables from the cur table, so that all database inconsistencies of this kind get resolved?
It is the wrong approach. There must not be any inconsistencies of any kind. The bugs should be fixed instead, as Brion mentioned. The current bug in action going to be fixed, the consistency check going to run after that, once, and we keep our eyes open for any new inconsistencies which may be a sign of a next bug to fix.
Of course the bugs should get fixed, but that does not change the pages where the bug occurred before that time. Nor does it do any good for other cases where similar bugs have occurred. If there's a leak in the hull, we should try to find and fill the leak, but the water that has come in already should be hosed out too.
Andre Engels
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:03:15PM +0100, Andre Engels wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Peter Gervai wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 10:48:20AM +0100, Andre Engels wrote:
Might it be an option to every month or every few months re-create the links and blinks tables from the cur table, so that all database inconsistencies of this kind get resolved?
It is the wrong approach. There must not be any inconsistencies of any kind. The bugs should be fixed instead, as Brion mentioned. The current bug in action going to be fixed, the consistency check going to run after that, once, and we keep our eyes open for any new inconsistencies which may be a sign of a next bug to fix.
Of course the bugs should get fixed, but that does not change the pages where the bug occurred before that time. Nor does it do any good for other cases where similar bugs have occurred. If there's a leak in the hull, we should try to find and fill the leak, but the water that has come in already should be hosed out too.
Sorry to repeat myself, but as I said: the water should be hosed out now, but we should not start hosing every month no matter what. We hose now, get it done, and keep eyeing the hull.
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