Just remember that if you want to merge projects, you need to merge
communities. And differences between communities are not only
political based. (For example, the main reason why I don't want to
merge Serbian Wikipedia with Serbo-Croatian is that their community,
as I see, is too much authoritarian.)
On 10/10/05, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:
Milos Rancic wrote:
Just to say that at least very small minority
(maybe one contributor
on sr: ) agrees to merge sr, hr and bs Wikipedias into one. Even it is
so, Serbian and Croatian communities cooperate very good.
There are some ideas how to make cooperation better, but, please,
don't force talks about merging because such ideas make cooperation
harder.
And about sh: Wikipedia: Yes, Elephantus is right when he says that
our communities (Serbian and Croatian) have problems with sh:
Wikipedia. People who want to cooperate would prefer sh: Wikipedia and
we would have only strong nationalists on our projects. Unfortunately,
there are more strong nationalists then people who want to cooperate
in Balkans. The consequences are: big Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian
Wikipedias with a lot of nationalist POV and small Serbo-Croatian
Wikipedia with specific NGO POV from Balkans.
Also, I want to say again: sh: Wikipedia was reopened too early. It is
opened and I don't think that it would be better to close it again.
But, we have some problems and I don't know how to solve it... And,
please, don't make pressure for merging sr:, hr: and bs:.
I basically agree. I think that there is a big difference between
encouraging the Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, and insisting that the other
three be merged into it. Before a merger can be possible the partisans
need to be shown that co-operation can work. It's hard to say whether
the sh:wikipedia was opened too early; for some any opening would be too
early. The challenge at this stage is for those on the combined project
to find ways of co-operating. I'm sure that all three projects have
some relatively uncontroversial articles that can be copied into the
combined project. Can an active edit history be copied as well?
For a merger to happen (and all three do not need to happen at the same
time) the participants in the separate projects need to feel that their
participation there is a waste of time, and just let that project fade
away. When it is obvious that a project has no participants, and all
the contents have been copied into the sh project it can be allowed to
fade away. That will take as long as it needs to take. Until then it
is an individual option to work on the separate or combined projects.
Ec
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