No only that Marky and try not to play who's the
smart around here. You breake the decision taken by Anthere here where she told you to
stop editing and respecting the result of the vote. You're not allowed to edit that
wikipedia again? Do you understand this? There was a vote about it, I don't care if
you didn't vote or not. Many other people voted and now its time for you to accept
it.
It's so hard for you to accept this? You must accept Anthere's decision and
don't you ever edit that wikipedia again. You russian anti-romanian.
Mark Williamson wrote:
The edits to which Mr Civilization is referring are a number of
articles I created, for example
Now, the last time I checked, creation of stub articles is hardly a
bannable offence.
Mark
On 10/03/06, future civilization wrote:
Several IPs coming from Phoenix, Arizona (home
address of Mark W.) made several edits (and also several personal attacks) on Moldovan
Wikipedia thus breaking the result of the vote to delete the Moldovan Wikipedia and
decision taken to freeze/or to rapidly delete this wikipedia made here.
A ban for Mark for about a month maybe will chill him out and stop him from doing
disruptive edits any more. A respect for the result of the vote would be too much from him
as he immediately lounched himself in personal attacks.
There is no more talking about this Moldovan Wikipedia, people decided to close and
delete it. Now, its your job to do it and respect the decision.
There was a vote for a long period of time: one month. Everybody had the chance to
express himself and now the result of the vote shows very clear: people want DELETION OF
MOLDOVAN WIKIPEDIA. Now, put this in practice.
future civilization wrote:
Yes, indeed. Mark doesn't have any authority and/or credibility, as himself admits.
He is very interested in closing/opening any wikipedia but he uses a very disruptive
language towards the new users. This disruptive language shows his limited comprehension
on wikipedias in various languages. In this way he discourage people who are enthusiast to
close/open new wikipedias. He has no power to decide for such a decision at the very least
he wants to ask for attention. Maybe this is explained by his early age in life. You
can't have any authority having only 16-17 years.
His style is to demolish everything and has a strongly counter-effect, a strong negative
one on what happens in Wikipedia. I checked his blocking log and shows a mean, very strong
negative behaviour.
You appear to take an extremely keen interest in the closing / opening
of wikipedias, more so than the average poster on this list. I am just
worried about newcomers who are excited about creating a wikipedia
getting discouraged because someone, without the community's backing,
acted as though he had the power to approve or deny the request. This
came out extremely strongly in your last message to Manuel.
I am not saying that you should stop being interested in the creation
and destruction of wikipedias -- I am just worried about your style of
discussing them.
Silas Snider wrote:
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Mark Williamson wrote:
Question:
What authority do you, Mark, have over the creation of a new wikipedia?
Are you a developer? I don't seem to ever see you contributing patches,
Put simply, I don't. I have no real authority. However, I do know that
I have some sway, because different people have varying degrees of
respect for me in the matter of languages. There are certainly those
who don't trust me at all or who think I don't know much of anything
at all about languages, but I think most people believe that I know
quite a bit about languages but at the same time have problems with
other things about me so they take most of my opinions/advice under
advisement.
If some developer wants to create a Tetum WP immediately, I have no
say in that. However, I'm pretty sure that the Wikimedia community as
a whole will have much more enthusiasm for the creation of a Tetum
Wikipedia if its test-wiki is more vibrant and is in 100% Tetum.
etc. on wikitech-l. In fact, almost all the posts
that I can see of
yours involve some kind of discussion over orthography or languages in
various wikipedias, especially when discussing closing one.
From what you say here, it seems to me that
you're a relative
newcomer. Before the Moldovan controversy, there was almost
never any
discussion about closing Wikis, given that the only 2 that have been
closed so far are Toki Pona and Klingon.
I'm not sure what's wrong, though, with the fact that almost all of my
posts are about languages -- is that a bad thing? Certainly, if you
look at other posters, many of them tend to have areas of particular
interest as well.
No, its not a bad thing, I was just trying to establish why I thought
you were not a developer (in case it turned out that you were).
My point is: on what grounds do you consider it
your job to be the
arbiter of when a proposal for wikipedia creation is good enough?
Who said I do consider it my job? Besides you, that is.
You appear to take an extremely keen interest in the closing / opening
of wikipedias, more so than the average poster on this list. I am just
worried about newcomers who are excited about creating a wikipedia
getting discouraged because someone, without the community's backing,
acted as though he had the power to approve or deny the request. This
came out extremely strongly in your last message to Manuel.
I am not saying that you should stop being interested in the creation
and destruction of wikipedias -- I am just worried about your style of
discussing them.
Mark
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