2007/4/15, Berto 'd Sera <albertoserra(a)ukr.net>et>:
It's not abstract principles we deal with, it's real facts, as written in
permalinks. Thank God nobody can clear the backups, so it will never be a
problem to translate the material and let it speak for itself. Anyway, as I
told to Francis and John right from the start, it's a BIG mistake to present
insulated fragments in such cases. Most people cannot read the original, and
as a result in a few minutes you're going to discuss about empty principles,
instead of dealing with a naked fact, as it should be.
http://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sionism&oldid=949385
TOC:
1. History
2. Ideology
3. Propaganda
4. Historical matter of facts
5. Historical position of Orthodox Judaism against Zionism
6. Zionism as Fascism
7. Jewish historicans about Zionism as ethnic purification
8. Condamnation by the UN
1. History
The national movement of the international Jews was initated by
Theodor Herzl, born in Budapest, who had as objectives the solution to
the Jewish Problem by creating a homeland. The first attempt of the
Jews to concentrate was in the Romanian Bessarabia, which some
Romanian Jews from Bessarabia, betraying the interests of their
country, did everything to bring it under Bolshevik rule, under the
name Jewish Soviet Republic.
2. Ideology
The theory regarding the "refounding" of the Jewish state in palestine
was exaggerated because in the biblical time, in the Holy Land there
were plenty of statelets, none being organized on national principles.
The 12 tribes were just one of the amphictyonies of the Ancient World,
the ethnic link between Dan's and Neftali's tribe being no closer than
between any of the other local populations, like the Philistines.
The sionist reading of the bible is very selective and exclusively
ideological. The Orthodox Rabbis reject the secular and ideological
mix in reading the bible. It is a well know fact that even Avraam was
not a Jew, but a Aramaic wanderer. Even Deuteronomy says "an Aramaic
wanderer arammi abed abi, the famous..."
Unmasked this way, the Zionism is just a founding myth, which
justifies, through the use of the Jews fooled by the buzzers of the
propaganda, the occupation of some territories in which are applied
racist politics of daily repressal, which don't respect the product of
hundreds of civilization -- the Geneva convention, the 65 resolutions
of the UN, the peace treaties, the human rights or even the
Palestinians, as people.
One of the people who continued Hertzl [actually it's a
derisive/depreciative version of Hertzl's name, using a certain
Romanian suffix] was the Romanian scientist Moses Gaster, the
favourite student of Bogdan Petriceicu Hasdeu, who was expelled from
the Romanian Kingdom.
etc.