Yes, thanks.
Mark
On 09/03/06, Manuel de Sousa <manuel.sousa(a)tvtel.pt> wrote:
I understand you point of view, Mark.
I'll try to get this fixed and will come back again within a month, or so.
Does this seem fair to you?
Thanks & regards,
Manuel de Sousa
-----Mensagem original-----
De: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Em nome de Mark Williamson
Enviada: quinta-feira, 9 de Março de 2006 3:50
Para: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
Assunto: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Request for Tetum language - reminder
I know that Portuguese is th esecond official language of East Timor.
That's not what I asked.
It doesn't inspire confidence that most of the pages in the test wiki
are in Portuguese, when you are requesting a Wikipedia for Tetum.
Mark
On 08/03/06, Manuel de Sousa <manuel.sousa(a)tvtel.pt> wrote:
Mark,
Portuguese is the second official language of East Timor and is regarded
as
a reference for Tetum. In the official Tetum, a
huge amount of vocabulary
comes directly from Portuguese.
Another reason is that, as far as I know, several of the supporters of
this
project are Timorese university students studying
in Portugal. So, the
easy
way, would be to go to the Portuguese Wikipedia
and copy a few articles,
in
order to translate them later.
Anyway, in the case of a testpage certain experiences must be tolerated.
Things will be different once the Tetum Wikipedia becomes real...
Regards,
Manuel de Sousa
-----Mensagem original-----
De: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org
[mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] Em nome de Mark Williamson
Enviada: quinta-feira, 9 de Março de 2006 3:30
Para: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org
Assunto: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Request for Tetum language - reminder
One thing I noticed is that most of the testpages are in Portuguese. Why?
Mark
On 08/03/06, Manuel de Sousa <manuel.sousa(a)tvtel.pt> wrote:
> Last January 14 and 15 I sent two msg to this group
>
(
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2006-January/043424.html
> and
>
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2006-January/043428.html),
> asking for the creation of a Wikipedia in
Tetum language, one of the two
> official languages of Timor-Leste (or East Timor), the youngest
independent
> nation in the world (the other official language is Portuguese).
>
> In the meantime, this project got 15 supporters, 8 of them
native-speakers
> of Tetum (see:
>
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Approved_requests_for_new_languages#Tetum_.28
> 15_support_.5B8_native_speakers.5D.29).
>
> Subsequently, I created a test page
> (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/tet) that presently has a dozen
> articles in Tetum and a few others in the process of being translated to
> Tetum.
>
> Anyway, I find it difficult to attract Tetum-speaking people to work in
a
> Wikipedia that is still in a test phase. So,
I wonder if any developer
can
> inform me if this new language version of
Wikipedia is about to the set
up
> or not.
>
> I'm absolutely convinced the Wikipedia in Tetum is viable, and that it
can
> be an exceptional tool for East-Timorese to
promote their national
language
> internally and abroad. And I'm not alone in this feeling. Giuseppe
d'Angelo
> said in a subsequent msg: "One can't understate what such a venture [the
> creation of a Wikipedia in Tetum] would do to the self-esteem of a whole
> people. It will take a while to get going, given their problems with
basic
> infrastructure, but I am certain that it
would eventually succeed. There
is
> also likely to be a thriving community of Tetum speakers in nearby
Darwin,
> where they are likely to have better
infrastructure - it's just a case
of
> getting the message through to them."
>
> I will do my best to get the message to the East-Timorese in Australia,
in
> Portugal, in Indonesia, etc. -- as well as in
East Timor. But, first of
all,
> you [the developers] gotta set up this new Wikipedia.
>
> Plz let me know where are we standing of this.
>
> Thanks & regards,
> Manuel de Sousa
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