Wikipedia-l August 2005

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Klingon Wikipedia locked
by Brion Vibber 07 Aug '05

07 Aug '05

I've locked the Klingon Wikipedia (tlh.wikipedia.org) on Jimmy's request. It remains online for now, but is no longer editable. (Perhaps it could be moved to WikiCities?) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Wikipedia Announces Tighter Editorial Control (*not*)
by Walter Vermeir 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/05/2012229&tid=187 Do not believe the media about Wikipedia until you have heard it from Jimbo. Numerous news outlets are quoting a Reuters report that Jimmy Wales has stated that there will be a "freeze" on editing. Jimbo says that statements about methods for achieving the widely-discussed stable "Wikipedia 1.0" were misinterpreted as implying a project-wide lockdown. Wikipedia's open editing will continue for the forseeable future, and any potential stablized version would exist alongside the current system. Jimbo was last seen looking for the 'edit this page' link on the Reuters article. See; http://tinyurl.com/7npj8 - Statement on /. by Jimbo about this -- Ook een artikeltje schrijven? WikipediaNL, de vrije GNU/FDL encyclopedie http://www.wikipedia.be

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Fwd: [Wikipedia-l] Deletion sorting: help help help!
by ABCD 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

This message was sent to Wikipedia-l; I have forwarded it to WikiEN-l, where it might get more of a response. This is not to be construed as an endorsement for or against the message - i.e. don't shoot the messenger. ABCD -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Deletion sorting: help help help! Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 18:56:22 +0900 From: Samuel Henderson <samueljhenderson(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org To: wikipedia-l(a)wikimedia.org References: <20050804005012.B78C21158419(a)mail.wikimedia.org> Hi folks, This an invite to all the folks who are unhappy with the present VfD process: Please consider joining WikiProject Deletion sorting ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting ). We need your help to overcome community inertia and help bring the deletion process back down to a human scale. VfD itself has grown beyond the human scale, and unless we all work together we'll never get it fixed. Help is especially needed with: 1. Detailing exactly how a finalized system would work. 2. Harvesting VfD, CfD, TfD, and RfD listings and sorting them into the proposed categories at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Beta . 3. Critiquing and improving said categories. 4. Documenting *specific examples* of the present VfD system's many serious problems. (inappropriate use, incivility, reflex voting, etc.). I know I'm not the only one disappointed by the community's reactionary response to efforts at fixing the broken VfD system. However, in the end we are the Wikipedia community. If we don't find a way to fix this problem, nobody is going to come in and fix it for us. Let's get to work! Cheers, Visviva _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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Deletion sorting: help help help!
by Samuel Henderson 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

Hi folks, This an invite to all the folks who are unhappy with the present VfD process: Please consider joining WikiProject Deletion sorting ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting ). We need your help to overcome community inertia and help bring the deletion process back down to a human scale. VfD itself has grown beyond the human scale, and unless we all work together we'll never get it fixed. Help is especially needed with: 1. Detailing exactly how a finalized system would work. 2. Harvesting VfD, CfD, TfD, and RfD listings and sorting them into the proposed categories at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Beta . 3. Critiquing and improving said categories. 4. Documenting *specific examples* of the present VfD system's many serious problems. (inappropriate use, incivility, reflex voting, etc.). I know I'm not the only one disappointed by the community's reactionary response to efforts at fixing the broken VfD system. However, in the end we are the Wikipedia community. If we don't find a way to fix this problem, nobody is going to come in and fix it for us. Let's get to work! Cheers, Visviva

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Wikimania - Spanish - we need someone for proofreading in Spanish
by Sabine Cretella 06 Aug '05

06 Aug '05

Hi, we need someone for proofreading of some Spanish texts for Wikimania - is anyone here who could help us? Thanks, Sabine ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it

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Deletion mechanism on wikis other than en:?
by fun＠thingy.apana.org.au 05 Aug '05

05 Aug '05

There's a big debate on en: right now about what to use as a deletion mechanism. The current [[:en:WP:VFD]] mechanism is very controversial - I and many others think it creates more acrimony than it's worth, and [[:en:user:Ed Poor]] actually deleted the page a couple of days ago! While it was quickly undeleted, it's set in motion debates about what to use for a deletion mechanism. Because I don't think anyone questions that we needsome sort of deletion mechanism for stuff that isn't obvious immediate speedy deletes - just that VFD is scaling badly and getting very acrimonious. So. What do other Wikipedias use as their deletion procedure? - d.

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Wikibreak
by Walter van Kalken 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

After thinking it over for a couple of days (as opposed to my previous overheated runouts) I have decided to go on a wikibreak. I somehow evaluated it and found that with everything added my pleasure in working on the wikimedia projects has diminished to zero. There are some developments to the projects that I do not really like. As people might have noticed in previous mails. I will most surely be back ..... it might be tomorrow, it might be next week it might be in a couple of months. Just need to recharge the wikibatteries and find the fun in participating in the projects again. That fun is kinda gone with me for now. Walter/Waerth

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Re: [Wikipedia-l] Bizarre vandalism at Cherokee Wikipedia by 217.44.22.219
by Boris Lohnzweiger 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

I think this type of hassle could be avoided to a great extent if people would concentrate on contributing to Wikipedias in languages they master. Nobody without a sufficient command of Cherokee would ever dare to think of writing a book in that language. Yet, the wiki system fools some (or many?) people into thinking they can provide a sensible contribution in foreign languages where they wouldn't be able to make the most basic conversation. I am aware that in most cases this is done well-meaningly. Many small wikipedias are in a pitiful state and often show virtually no development. This tempts many editors (especially those with a weakness for languages) to provide "development aid". However, the result is often simply embarrassing. Moreover, such benevolent activities might even cause the exact opposite as Wikipedias written in a mishmash of deficient and foreign language will keep any native speakers (potential future contributors !) from using them. Boris ______________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193

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Explicit copyright assignment to wikimedia foundation
by Alexandre Dulaunoy 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Dear All, I was wondering what is the current status of the explicit copyright assignment to the wikimedia foundation. Is it possible to do so instead of the non-explicit copyright assignment for any original wikipedia contribution ? Is there any official procedure and form to assign copyright to the foundation ? Thanks a lot for any feedback, adulau -- -- Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau) -- http://www.foo.be/ -- http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- "Knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance -- that we can solve them" Isaac Asimov

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[Wikipedia-l] Free ipods, Wikimania media contest, and textual bliss
by SJ 03 Aug '05

03 Aug '05

Hello all, The Wikimania Writing and Media contest will be handing out two ipods (multilingual), a dozen digital collections of world literature (in English), and over a dozen technical books (in German and English), to the best overall media and writing nominations. Today is the last day to nominate your favorite Wikimedia works! At least one prize will be awarded in every category... currently we have three or fewer submissions http://wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/Competitions Please add nominations to the list here: Media - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Media_Competition Writing - http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_writing_contest_nominations SJ -- ++SJ

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