This week, the Wikimedia Foundation was honored by a World Technology
Award in communication, joining the ranks of other World Technology
Network members[1]. If you made it to part of the WTN summit and
ceremonies, please link to photos and other records of the event. (
http://www.wtn.net/2005/summit/ )
And Daniel Terdiman turned out another fine article on wikinews,
calling it "one of the most effective uses" of wiki technology :
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5953168.html
--SJ
[1] Other corporate members:
ARM Holdings Ltd.
Auto-ID Center
eBay Inc.
Electronic Frontier Foundation
EZchip Technologies
Fraunhofer Institut
Hewlett Packard
Lucent Technologies
Nokia
NTT DoCoMo, Inc.
QUALCOMM, Inc.
SimbaNet (T) Ltd.
Skype
Vodafone plc.
Vonage
--
++SJ
Korean Wikipedia is seeking for new name for the Main Page, for
ambiguity of the term we've chosen. Some support to put it under a
namespace like Wikipedia: or Portal:(which hasn't been created yet),
but I haven't seen any other Wikipedia had done it before. Is it OK to
put Main Page under a namespace?
Thank you Walter
I looked with interest at the archives.
I look forward the next issue.
Ant
Walter Vermeir wrote:
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>
> == Announcement of Wikizine ==
>
> I am pleased to announce the creation of Wikizine. A new internal news
> bulletin for the members of the Wikimedia community.
>
> Wikizine is an weekly publication that will list the news of the Wikimedia
> projects of the previous week. It will not be like Quatro that has full
> articles. That is not the concept. The ideal Wikizine is short. Every news
> listing contains of an one line summary and an url to some place where you
> can find more information.
>
> To subscribe go to;
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
>
> == Why ==
>
> I, [[w:nl:gebruiker:Walter]], have found for many years that Wikipedia,
> now Wikimedia, has a very serious internall communication problem. There
> is to much information and it is highly fragmented between many wiki
> pages, mailing lists and other places. Even if you try to read everything
> you do not know all wikimedia news.
>
> I have done proposals in the past to attempt to counter this problem but
> nothing came from that. Also other attempts like "going-ons" and "Quatro"
> do not seem to be a great success.
>
> So I have decided to try to do it myself. Wikizine is an attempt in that
> direction. Of it will be an success will be depend for an large part of
> the readers and the feedback. I will try to discover all the news that
> there is about Wikimedia and report the most relevant news of in Wikizine.
> But I will fail to discover all the news. Wikizine needs to receive
> reports of things that are going on somewhere in a strange, far away wiki.
> Especially from the projects and languages from who you never hear.
>
> == Who should read Wikizine? ==
>
> Everybody who likes to do so may read it off course. But the target
> audience is definitely; stewards, ambassadors, bureaucrats and sysops,
> members of the board of one of the wikimedia foundations.
>
> It is for the people who are doing the Wiki-management. The focus will be
> on the technical aspect. News about changes in the way the wikisotware
> works, new functions. Things that are broken. Other Wikimedia news will
> also be included but the focus is technical news that has an impact for
> the users and readers of the wiki.
>
> The idea and hope is that some of those readers will report back
> interesting news from there project and translate/communicate the news in
> Wikizine to there own community.
>
> Wikizine is distributed by the mailinglist Announce-l. This list is only
> for the postings of Wikizine, not for discussion. So it is very low
> traffic. Normally once a week.
>
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
>
> Please inform your local community about Wikizine and report news to
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Dear all,
The Wikimentary project, which started as the kernel of an idea at
Wikimania when the Globalvision documentary team was moved to see what
the community would do with their raw footage, is taking off. Rory
O'Connor at Globalvision has really been pushing to make this happen;
through some heroic efforts on his part we now have low-res copies of
all 25 tapes they shot, a high-res copy of one tape (#8), and a 'rough
cut' he edited together that PBS will be airing in January -- all
available via archive.org at the moment.
You can see a guest blog-post about this on the Frontline/World blog here :
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/blog/2005/11/its_a_wiki_wiki.html
The rough cut (be the first to write a review ;-):
http://www.archive.org/details/WIKIMANIA-ROUGH_CUT.mov
Transcripts:
http://www.archive.org/details/WIKIMANIA_TRANSCRIPTS
NEXT STEPS:
If you'd like to take part in the project, or work on your own short
wikimentary using this content, you can help in a few ways.
1. Download the transcripts (all of which are rough, have some
mistakes, and are currently Word files) and one of the low-res
'screener' files; listen to the screener while editing the transcript.
Upload the fixed transcript, as something other than a Word file, to
Wikisource :-)
2. Help others learn how to edit their own video. Add ot the
[[m:Video]] guide on meta; learn more about various editing platforms
(iMovie might work well as an interim step), help set up a
qt/wmv/other --> theora conversion tool (if there isn't already a good
service online). Some existing editing guides:
http://current.tv/studio/survivalguide/ (for tv-quality video production)
3. Update [[m:Wikimentary]] with notes and links. Discuss the
project on [[m:Talk:Wikimentary]].
4. Edit your own video from the raw footage! Right now only Tape #8
is available via archive.org in high-res, but for a test project you
could edit something together from the screeners.
More to come. Andy Carvin, a notorious podcaster and vlogger, is
interested in helping teach people to start editing their own video;
he's worked on a related project recently with some elementary shool
students in Atlantic City. And the resulting video is adorably
amazing:
http://www.starw.org/acrc/2005/11/witches-aliens-and-school-board.html
Rory's latest update is included below.
++SJ
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rory O'Connor <Roc(a)globalvision.org>
Date: Nov 16, 2005 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Wikimentary latest
All,
I'm pleased to announce that files containing the following are all now
accessible at the URL below:
1. 'screeners' of all media shot by Globalvision at WikiMania;
2. transcripts in MS word of all screeners
3. a 'screener 'of the rough cut;
4. An 'editable' larger file of the rough cut;
5. a MS word file of the script for the rough cut
6. One 'editable' large file of one tape (008) of the media shot by
Globalvision in Frankfurt.
To see and download any or all, go to:
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=wikimedia
EXPLANATORY NOTE: What we are calling 'screeners' are smaller, lower quality
files suitable for downloading and meant to be looked at in conjunction with
the word files of the matching transcription. In other words, 'screener 008'
is the low quality media version of the eighth tape we shot. It should be
matched by a MSW file of the transcription of tape 008. When looked at in
conjunction, one should be ready to them correct the extant transcription
and wiki-ize it to make it a perfect match.
In most cases the current transcripts are close--but few if any are perfect.
So there is initial work to be done just looking at the tapes and fixing the
transcripts.
One can also download the 'screener' of my rough cut, which should match
perfectly with the MSW script file of same. If it doesn't, please amend it.
The 'editable' file of the rough cut is also available for anyone who wants
to begin tearing it apart and improving it.
We continue to upload the larger 'editable' files of the other media as
well, and are working out several kinks and issues associated with that.
Thus far, only tape 008 is available in this form.
Also, for video newbies, here's a link to a fairly comprehensive video
production primer available online -- the VC2 Survival Guide -- courtesy of
Current.tv:
http://current.tv/studio/survivalguide/
Finally, if you haven't seen it yet, here's the URL for the 'Dispatch' I
recently posted about WikiMania and the wikimentary project at the web site
of the PBS program 'Frontline World"
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/blog/2005/11/its_a_wiki_wiki.html
I still need to see and sign and maybe post some sort of license for all the
above; a wiki to discuss if not work on this would be a good idea, if anyone
is so moved; and it might be nice if there were a mechanism to let everyone
who attended the conference to know about all this, no?
Hope to hear from some of you soon...
-Rory
On 11/5/05 4:50 PM, "Jimmy Wales" <jwales(a)wikia.com> wrote:
> SJ wrote:
>> An easy way to get people involved is to have them finish up the
>> missing transcriptions; once we have the files in a suitable place
>> online.
>
> This is a very fine idea. I can help with this. In my previous email,
> I said that I don't know how to edit video, and that still holds true.
> I suppose I do know how to make or correct a transcript. I just
> download a video clip, I watch it, and while I'm watching it I type or
> else I edit/correct what someone else has typed.
>
>> Absolutely ! For the purposes of transcription, which seems the
>> fastest way to get people collaborating on the content, it would be
>> great to have audio streams separate from the video. Is there a
>> simple way to do this at the source? That content, at least, could be
>> uploaded to Wikimedia servers and played with immediately.
>
> Yes, absolutely. Getting the audio up somewhere quickly would be
> totally fine. :-)
>
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++SJ
Well we are building the NAP-wikipedia and of course there are parts
where one easily can transfer data by just translating it from one
Wikipedia to the other. In this case we already uploaded the Calendar -
and now it would make sense to transfer the contents of the Italian
wikipedia there by translating it - people and events stay the same. So
what I now would like to reach is:
1) having a dump from the Italian wikipedia
2) extracting all pages of the calendar
3) translate them with the help of OmegaT
Why OmegaT? Well in the sections "Born" and "Died" after the name of the
person you vey often find just "actor, actress, writer, politician" or
whatever - this means that there would be quite a lot of 100% matches
and the translation would be much faster with the tool than without.
These lines all are created like this:
*[[name of the person]] description
Now to have the possibility to get 100% matches I need at least a line
break after
*[[name of the person]]
that needs to be taken out again after having translated the file.
Then in a second step, with the help of a bot, the translated parts can
be transferred into the articles.
Well: what I now need is some advice on how to have this done - and then
what can be done for Neapolitan can easily be repeated for other languages.
This means I need some help to get this regular expression ... I mean
some code that runs through the data, inserts the line break and after
translation takes it out again.
Who can help me with this? Btw. the TMX (translation memory) is going to
be available under GFDL for anyone - well this should be obvious.
This text was originally posted here (in order to allow to collect how
to's):
http://www.wesolveitnet.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=83&post_id…
Thank you!!!
Ciao, Sabine
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Hi,
As a bystander here I am really, really confused about
Zlatiborian!
Now, could someone please translate what Djordje wrote
on the sr.wiki. An honest translation. There are
reasonable grounds to believe this is a hoax, for a
few reasons:
*Djordje's backtracking over this project with
statements like "I'm sorry, it was a hoax"
*Node's expression of "noble" language, etc, which
makes it seem very much like a joke (honestly...)
*The most important point - there are NO internet
sources on this language. None at all! Surely if this
was an actual language, there would be at least one
source calling it Zlatiborian.
Node - you said that you have some books on this
language, and you seem to know quite a lot about it
(vocabulary differences, etc). Are there any sources
on the Internet about this? And proof?
In conclusion - I'm not against the Zlatiborian
Wikipedia, but I'm really in doubt over whether it
actually exists.
I am from Romania, so I know Southeastern Europe quite
well, and I can tell you that while I've heard of
Zlatibor, I've never heard of a Zlatiborian language
before. Languages like Livonian which have 10 speakers
get more coverage on the Internet than Zlatiborian -
that's what worries me.
And Milos - just because there is a proposal on
Zlatiborian doesn't mean it's board-endorsed or
anything. I don't think you have reasonable grounds to
say that because five users have supported a certain
initiative, you will quit Wikipedia or stop the
foundation of Wikimedia SCG.
Thanks,
Ronline
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Hi Ronline!
>The other thing that makes me worried is the growing
>pressure on new language contributors. We must
>remember that Wikipedians are *volunteers* and most,
>except vandals, are always adding knowledge to the
>community. Pressuring them into reaching a certain
>guideline for their language is abuse, in my opinion.
It would be a pity if those guidelines were primarily
perceived as "pressure". They should of course never
be abused as an instrument to exclude people or groups
but only serve everybody participating at Wikimedia
projects (old and new members) by helping to assure
the success of those projects.
Sadly, it's a fact that roughly half of all Wikipedias
are clinically dead at present. Being enthusiastically
pro-multilingualism here, I believe that we must do
the best we can in order to add more productive,
useful editions in the coming years but at the same
time try hard to prevent any further stillbirths. My
personal opinion is that establishing a few standards
will be more beneficial here than a total
laissez-faire. But I do understand your concern, too.
>New contributors must be encouraged, not discouraged.
Right. The attitude of the established community
towards potential new members must always be a
cooperative, constructive, helpful and friendly one.
But maybe part of the encouragement can also be
something like: "Look, we've been around here for a
while and we've seen what works and what doesn't. We
recommend that you first find a couple more
like-minded people _before_ you start because it's
probably more work than you can imagine now."
Best,
Arbeo
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An internal news bulletin for the
members of the Wikimedia community.
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== Announcement of Wikizine ==
I am pleased to announce the creation of Wikizine. A new internal news
bulletin for the members of the Wikimedia community.
Wikizine is an weekly publication that will list the news of the Wikimedia
projects of the previous week. It will not be like Quatro that has full
articles. That is not the concept. The ideal Wikizine is short. Every news
listing contains of an one line summary and an url to some place where you
can find more information.
To subscribe go to;
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
== Why ==
I, [[w:nl:gebruiker:Walter]], have found for many years that Wikipedia,
now Wikimedia, has a very serious internall communication problem. There
is to much information and it is highly fragmented between many wiki
pages, mailing lists and other places. Even if you try to read everything
you do not know all wikimedia news.
I have done proposals in the past to attempt to counter this problem but
nothing came from that. Also other attempts like "going-ons" and "Quatro"
do not seem to be a great success.
So I have decided to try to do it myself. Wikizine is an attempt in that
direction. Of it will be an success will be depend for an large part of
the readers and the feedback. I will try to discover all the news that
there is about Wikimedia and report the most relevant news of in Wikizine.
But I will fail to discover all the news. Wikizine needs to receive
reports of things that are going on somewhere in a strange, far away wiki.
Especially from the projects and languages from who you never hear.
== Who should read Wikizine? ==
Everybody who likes to do so may read it off course. But the target
audience is definitely; stewards, ambassadors, bureaucrats and sysops,
members of the board of one of the wikimedia foundations.
It is for the people who are doing the Wiki-management. The focus will be
on the technical aspect. News about changes in the way the wikisotware
works, new functions. Things that are broken. Other Wikimedia news will
also be included but the focus is technical news that has an impact for
the users and readers of the wiki.
The idea and hope is that some of those readers will report back
interesting news from there project and translate/communicate the news in
Wikizine to there own community.
Wikizine is distributed by the mailinglist Announce-l. This list is only
for the postings of Wikizine, not for discussion. So it is very low
traffic. Normally once a week.
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/announce-l
Please inform your local community about Wikizine and report news to
Wikizine.
wikizine(a)wikipedia.be
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Hi Mark!
> These are problems with YOUR interpretation, NOT with me.
Throughout the past months, it has happened quite a number of times that people
have totally misinterpreted your contributions.
On the other hand, the mails written by most other participants are usually
interpreted correctly.
Now, my personal opinion is that if one is misunderstood quite often, he should
not react to that by saying: "that's not my problem" but rather try to write in a
less mistakable manner.
That way, you'll have to spend less time on clarifications in the future!
Arbeo
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Milos Rancic wrote:
>You didn't read last messages well? ;)
>Mark said that he supported Zlatiborian hoax because
>of fun.
Yes, I have. My point was that the very mention of
such words can have unwanted side-effects, no matter
if they are meant ironically or seriously. Especially
when the irony is not obvious to everybody at first
sight.
Arbeo
On 11/10/05, Arbeo M <arbeo_m(a)yahoo.de> wrote:
> Mark Williamson wrote:
>
> >It wasn't a real problem until Milos and the other
> >anti-Zlatiborians decided to make a big fuss to try
> to >prevent the glorious people of Zlatibor from
> getting the >Wikipedia they so richly deserve in
their
> beautiful >native language, and for petty political
> reasons.
>
> Hi Mark!
>
> The other day I wrote that Milos ought to be a
little
> bit more tolerant of various opinions (including
> yours) here.
>
> On the other hand, I don't think using words like
> "nationalists", "oppressors" or "anti-Zlatiborians"
> will help establishing a good atmosphere of
discussion
> here when the issues themselves are difficult
enough.
>
> Best,
>
> Arbeo
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