>===== Original Message From "Poor, Edmund W" <Edmund.W.Poor(a)abc.com> =====
>The problem with being a relativist, as I'm sure you've already found, is
that you have no grounds for doing anything. The standard is always your own
desires.
Only in some interpretations of relativism. :) A less naiive approach to
relitavism recognizes that other people do exist, and that those other people
do have the ability to influence you - in the case of Wikipedia, by editing
the things that you do. So, although one might full well believe that one
should have the "right" to do anything one wants to on Wikipedia, the fact
remains that community standards _will_ be enforced because the rest of us
have the ability to stop you. I see no fundamental problem with applying this
through mechanisms other than mere editing and reversion, all the way up to
full-blown banning in extreme cases.
So community standards do matter, whether they're "official" or not and
whether they match your own desires or not.
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 04:00 am, Khendon / Jason Williams wrote:
> I've been here a few months now; can I be a sysop, please?
As a matter of fact I was thinking about inviting you to become one.
Developers, please upgrade Khendon's account to sysop.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
PS Khendon this is a request better suited for the en.wiki mailing list
(wikiEN-L).
tarquin Wrote:
>Here's another thing WikipediaIsNot: a creche.
>
>Lir's been learning to follow rules, sure: she's applying NPOV to such
>entries as Star Wars (maybe the empire isn't evil) and Vampirism
<snip>
>meanwhile, she is getting up more & more people's noses: see Talk:Battle
>of Dien Bien Phu
LDC saw the writing on the wall long before I did. I should have left
well enough alone. apologies again for the unbanning.
kq
TMC, if you enter my house, you must follow my rules -- or I'll throw you the hell out. Just as you would stop a gang of windshield bashers if they tried to vandalize your car.
The difference is, you don't think you have any "right" to do so -- whereas I think you do!
The problem with being a relativist, as I'm sure you've already found, is that you have no grounds for doing anything. The standard is always your own desires.
Switching to absolutism would be a step up for you, because then you would be confident that whenever you do something beneficial for the sake of another, it would be "good". (I leave the question of "what is beneficial" as an exercise for the student.)
Cute Little Bunny, aka Ed Poor
I think Ram-Man has 2 equally valid reasons for playing chess with Lir on her user page:
* it has been excellent practice for learning how to set up tables
* it's a friendly way to engage a new community member
Ed Poor => moving discussion to wikiEN-l
Going over last night's work, I notice that Angstrom has been redone to
include all the various diacretics. Is that common usage in English?
Oh, and Lir, I also noticed on your page that you refer to Jesus Christ as
Yehoshua of Nazareth. A very cute attempt to go back to the Hebrew/Aramaic,
but there are so many mistakes in that transliteration, it really makes it
useless.
1. There is no "ho" in the name. Yehoshua is Joshua, Yeshua is Jesus. In
fact, in Deuteronomy, Joshua's name was changed from Jesus--you are just
changing it back.
2. You're forgetting the gutteral ayin after the final a in Yeshua (though in
Hebrew/Aramaic writing it appears as if it would be before, the proper
pronunciation places it after).
3. Nazareth is just so far off the mark, it's not even worth explaining.
4. "Of" would "me" in Hebrew or "de" in Aramaic, without distinguishing
between the different vowels (tzeireh and shewa).
In other words, here your "attempt at accuracy" is just confused gibberish,
i.e., it is wrong. Stick to languages you know something about.
Danny
Could we have a persons contributions listed on a "Special" page, or
someone automatically included in their User page?
I mean, something showing which articles a user started, and which a
user has contributed a non-minor edit to.
I find Lirs perpetual updates to her user page annoyingly spammy on the
Recent Changes page, and I believe this solution could get rid of that
spam.
Jonathan
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Magnus Manske wrote in part:
>How about a link on the user contributions, for sysops only probably, to
.undo all "top" contributions of this user?
Only up to a certain time period that the back-roller must specify!
Please!!!
Many anonymous vandals share IPs with good anonymous users,
and the latter will often have top edits that we'll want to keep.
-- Toby