Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it appears to

difficult to update. Each translation is more or less outdated and often with an outdated/older style. I propose a template structure where style info is "removed" into a template and translations only deal with words. Feel free to comment at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Templates -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my commons userpage. Consider something like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style issues and etc. It is difficult enough finding people who can translate but

them to understand complex use of html, templates and etc is just too

The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to keep these pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For example we expect steward elections frequently, likewise we expect a wikimania each year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are templated on their own. -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) 2011/9/27 Mono mium <monomium(a)gmail.com> > Might make sense. > > 2011/9/26 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it appears

> be > > difficult to update. Each translation is more or less outdated and

> > with an outdated/older style. I propose a template structure where

> > info is "removed" into a template and translations only deal with

> > > > Feel free to comment at: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Templates > > > > -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:

Hoi, The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho.

it has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es > > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which

> easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated

applied. > > -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my commons > > userpage. Consider something like > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style issues

these > > pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For

we each > > year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are

on > > their own. > > > > -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) > > > > > > 2011/9/27 Mono mium <monomium(a)gmail.com> > > > >> Might make sense. > >> > >> 2011/9/26 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> > Meta main page seems to be not very multi-lingual because it

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Hoi, Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/28 M. Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who

> speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't

> English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a > page > with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least > rudimentary English skills to be able to figure it out, which is an > unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international > project. > > > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> > > > Hoi, > > The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. > However, > > it > > has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the > > translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es > > > > > > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which > allows > > > easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated > unfortunately > > > making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was > > applied. > > > > > > -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) > > > > > > > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my

> > > > userpage. Consider something like > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de > > > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style

too > > > much. > > > > > > > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to

wikimania and where with https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:

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*Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. *

wrote:

Hoi, Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/28 M. Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com> > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who

> speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't

> English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a > page > with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least > rudimentary English skills to be able to figure it out, which is an > unsatisfactory solution for what is supposed to be an international > project. > > > 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> > > > Hoi, > > The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. > However, > > it > > has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the > > translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es > > > > > > Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which > allows > > > easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated > unfortunately > > > making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was > > applied. > > > > > > -- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) > > > > > > > > > 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > > Oh, I was proposing something simpler than what I had on my

> > > > userpage. Consider something like > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/Gen v > > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:White_Cat/de > > > > Translators only /care/ about the text rather than the style

too > > > much. > > > > > > > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to

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2011/9/29 Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com>om>: Wikimedia Commons offers anonymous users the possibility to see the site in their  (guessed) language AFAIK. I'm sure it's not rocket science to port that to meta if necessary. Perhaps you should log a bug on that? Strainu _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

You can go to http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Main_Page?setlang=es but that's obviously not something everyone knows. I once added a language selector but it was removed at some point. I added it back now. 2011/9/29 M. Williamson <node.ue(a)gmail.com>om>: > Yes, when I went to commons I was pleased to get a notice that said > "Wikimedia Commons está disponible en español" at the top of the page. > Doesn't obligate the user to change, and the language chooser bar offers

> user a plethora of other choices in case the language guess was wrong.

> be nice to see the same thing on Meta. And while we're at it, why isn't > Wikispecies more multilingual? > > 2011/9/29 Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com> > >> 2011/9/29 Béria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com>om>: >> > As a IP is impossible (at least for me) and before someone complain:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/de http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/en http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Template/es Few examples of the new meta main page in its templated form which allows easier translation. Most translations are greatly outdated unfortunately making them essentially useless. A divide and conquer strategy was

-- とある白い猫 (To Aru Shiroi Neko) 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 <to.aru.shiroi.neko(a)gmail.com> expecting much. > > The feature you mentioned would indeed be a positive thing to keep

> pages up to date. We could also have generic translations. For example

> expect steward elections frequently, likewise we expect a wikimania

> year. It would only make sense if these "current events" are templated

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