Being put together by Eliezer Yudkowsky of LessWrong. Content is
cc-by-sa 3.0, don't know about the software.
https://arbital.com/p/arbital_ambitions/
Rather than the "encyclopedia" approach, it tries to be more
pedagogical, teaching the reader at their level.
Analysis from a sometime Yudkowsky critic on Tumblr:
http://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/140995096534/a-year-ago-i-remember-be…
(there's a pile more comments linked from the notes on that post,
mostly from quasi-fans; I have an acerbic comment in there, but you
should look at the site yourself first.)
No idea if this will go anywhere, but might be of interest; new
approaches generally are. They started in December, first publicised
it a week ago and have been scaling up. First day it collapsed due to
load from a Facebook post announcement ... so maybe hold off before
announcing it everywhere :-)
- d.
Hello, everyone.
(this is an announcement in my capacity as a volunteer.)
Inspired by a lightning talk at the recent CEE Meeting[1] by our colleague
Lars Aronsson, I made a little command-line tool to automate batch
recording of pronunciations of words by native speakers, for uploading to
Commons and integration into Wiktionary etc. It is called *pronuncify*, is
written in Ruby and uses the sox(1) tool, and should work on any modern
Linux (and possibly OS X) machine. It is available here[2], with
instructions.
I was then asked about a Windows version, and agreed to attempt one. This
version is called *pronuncify.net <http://pronuncify.net>*, and is a .NET
gooey GUI version of the same tool, with slightly different functions. It
is available here[3], with instructions.
Both tools require word-list files in plaintext, with one word (or phrase)
per line. Both tools name the files according to the standard established
in [[commons:Category:Pronunciation]], and convert them to Ogg Vorbis for
you, so they are ready to upload.
In the future, I may add OAuth-based direct uploading to Commons. If you
run into difficulties, please file issues on GitHub, for the appropriate
tool. Feedback is welcome.
A.
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2015/Programme/Lightn…
[2] https://github.com/abartov/pronuncify
[3] https://github.com/abartov/Pronuncify.net
--
Asaf Bartov
I exchanged a walk on part in the war for a lead role in the cage.
I find myself tied and limited in my actions and projects. In order to
avoid the perception or potential for Conflict of Interests I have to act
extremely carefully in far too many parts of my life. Instead of being able
to pursue my projects or some projects at work - which I think would align
very well with our mission - I found myself trapped between too many
constraints. I feel like I cannot offer my thoughts and my considerations
openly, since they might easily be perceived as expressions of interests -
regarding my previous work, regarding my friends, regarding my current
employment.
This hit home strongly during the FDC deliberations, where I had to deal
with the situation of people deliberating a proposal written by my Best
Man, around a project that has consumed the best part of the previous
decade of my life. Obviously, I explained the conflicts in this case, and
refrained from participating in the discussion, as agreed with the FDC.
This hit home every time there was a topic that might be perceived as a
potential conflict of interest between Wikimedia and my employer, and even
though I might have been in a unique position to provide insight, I had to
refrain from doing so in order not to exert influence.
There were constant and continuous attacks against me, as being merely
Google’s mole on the Board, even of the election being bought by Google. I
would not have minded these attacks so much - if I would have had the
feeling that my input to the Board, based on my skills and experiences,
would have been particularly valuable, or if I would have had the feeling
of getting anything done while being on the Board. As it is, neither was
the case.
I discussed with Jan-Bart, then chair, what is and what is not appropriate
to pursue as a member of the Board. I understood and followed his advice,
but it was frustrating. It was infuriatingly limiting.
As some of you might know, Wikidata was for me just one step towards my
actual goal, a fully multilingual Wikipedia. I hoped that as a Trustee I
could pursue that goal, but when even writing a comment on a bug in
Phabricator has to be considered under the aspect that it will be read as
"it is a Board-member writing that comment" and/or “It’s a Googler writing
that comment”, I don’t see how I could effectively pursue such a goal.
It was at Wikimania 2006 in Boston, when Markus Krötzsch and I had lunch
with Dan Connolly, a co-editor of the early HTML specs. Dan gave me an
advise that still rings with me - to do the things worth doing that only
you can do. This set me, back then, on a path that eventually lead to the
creation of Wikidata - which, before then, wasn't something I wanted to do
myself. I used to think that merely suggesting it would be enough - someone
will eventually do it, I don’t have to. There’s plenty of committed and
smart people at the Foundation, they’ll make it happen. Heck, Erik was back
then a supporter of the plan (he was the one to secure the domain
wikidata.org), and he was deputy director. Things were bound to happen
anyway. But that is not what happened. I eventually, half a decade later,
realized that if I do not do it, it simply won't happen, at least not in a
reasonable timeframe.
And as said, Wikidata was just one step on the way. But right now I cannot
take the next steps. Anything that I would do or propose or suggest will be
regarded through the lense of my current positions. To be fair, I do see
that I should not be both the one suggesting changes, and the one deciding
on them. I understand now that I could not have suggested Wikidata as a
member of the Board. It takes an independent Board to evaluate such
proposal and its virtues and decide on them.
I want to send a few thank yous, in particular to the teams at the
Wikimedia Foundation and at Google who helped me steer clear of actual
conflicts of interests. They were wonderful, and extremely helpful. It
bears a certain irony that both organizations had strong measures against
exactly the kind of things that I have been regularly accused of.
I only see three ways to stay clear from a perceived or potential Conflict
of Interest: to lay still and do nothing, to remove the source of the
Conflict, or to step away from the position of power. Since the first
option is unsatisfying, the second option unavailable, only the third
option remains.
So I have decided to resign from the Board of Trustees.
It was not an easy decision, and certainly not a step made any easier by
the events in the last few months. I understand that I will disappoint many
of the people who voted for me, and I want to apologize: I am sorry,
honestly sorry, but I don’t see that it is me the Board needs now, or that
the movement needs me in that position. What I learned is that the profile
that allows someone to win an election is not the profile that makes an
effective Trustee.
But be warned that you will continue to hear from me, after a wikibreak.
Expect crazy ideas, project proposals, and requests to fund and implement
them. I will return to a more active role within the movement. I will be,
again, free to work on things that are worth doing and that only I can do.
I think that in that role I can be more effective and more valuable to the
movement, the Foundation, and for our mission.
Be bold,
Denny
Hello all, I am forwarding an email from Siska Doviana of Wikimedia
Indonesia:
Hello Wikimedia Chapters,
Cc WMID mailing list
This is my last email to you (to this list), as I am no longer serving
Wikimedia Indonesia's board and currently being denied access because
of ASBS. In a separate email you will also find Wikimedia Indonesia's
annual report for 2015.
You will receive this email from Isabella, as a request to extend my
email to the chapter's list. So many things has happened between 2010
and 2016 (I begin enroll to this list in 2008, out, and in again, now
out again), and I am proud to see where Wikimedia Indonesia - the
state that I left it in. Hard work pay off y'all!
I am happy to announce Wikimedia Indonesia new Board of Executive and
new Board of Trustees based on our VIII general meeting of member
taking place on March 19, 2016 [1] - followed by Head of Board
Executive decision on March 28, 2016 regarding Board of Executive's
position [2].
Wikimedia Indonesia Board of Executive 2016-2019
1. Biyanto Rebin - Chair Board of Executive (elect)
2. Vacant - Deputy Chair Board of Executive (appointed)
3. Isabella Apriyana - Secretary General Board of Executive (appointed)
4. Farras Daryoctara - Deputy Secretary General Board of Executive
(appointed)
5. Djohan Satria- Treasurer Board of Executive (appointed)
6. Rachmat Wahidi - Deputy Treasurer Board of Executive (appointed)
Wikimedia Indonesia Board of Trustees 2016-2019
1. Rinto Jiang - (Chair) Board of Trustees (elect)
2. Kartika Sari Henry - Member of Board of Trustees (elect)
3. Ricky Setiawan - Member of Board of Trustees (elect)
Thank you for all the time invested in the organization, when I reached
out for help, volunteer work, expert advice, council - and showed me
what leadership is by making a bold example by doing.
Stepping down:
1. Ichsan Mochtar
2. Prasetyo
3. Panjisakti Basunanda
4. Indra Utama
5. Hendra Prasetiawan
Please remove the above access to this list and chapter's wiki, and of
course, myself.
6. Siska Doviana
Getting to know the new board:
Biyanto Rebin (email: biyanto.rebin(a)wikimedia.or.id) user: Beeyan
is a long time Wikipedian and joins Wikimedia Indonesia in 2013 as
committee for Free Your Knowledge Competition. Graduated from
University of Indonesia majoring Chinese, he received scholarship to
perfect his Italian language and studied in Italy for 3 months. He's a
polygloth, vegetarian, a gamelan player, and a very nice person
in general. Before joining Wikimedia Indonesia to work full time in
2014 for Cipta Media Cellular project, he held various position from
Human Resource in oil company, cellular company, translator, to
tutoring. Biyanto attended WMCON 2016 as one of WMID
delegates
Isabella Apriyana (email: isabella.apriyana(a)wikimedia.or.id) user:
26Isabella
Joined Wikimedia Indonesia as ex participant of Free Your Knowledge
wikipedia writing competition. Graduated from Atmajaya University
majoring in Biotechnology Isabella works for Eijkman Institute for
Molecular Biology. She attended WMCON 2016 as the other
WMID delegates.
Farras Dary Octora (email: farras.daryoctara(a)wikimedia.or.id), user:Farras
A dedicated Wikipedian since 2006 and now still studying international
relations in Airlangga University. He has been member of Wikimedia
Indonesia since 2014 and an administrator in Indonesian Wikipedia.
Djohan Satria (email:djohan.satria.hasibuan@wikimedia.or.id), user: djohan
Graduate from STAN (Indonesian State College of Accountancy) Djohan
been helping Wikimedia Indonesia with accounting matters (and
nightmare) since 2013, help us move office three times! Everyone calls
him pop, and he is the one any of us go to if there's any serious
matter happening, business, pleasure, or psychological (ha!). He is a
certified auditor and like to smile a lot, since he is pretty scary if
he is in his auditing mood.
Rachmat Wahidi (email: rachmat.wahidi(a)wikimedia.or.id), user:Rachmat04
Rachmat Acehnese Wikipedian (sysop), Indonesian Wikipedian, winner of
WMID's wikisource challenge, and Indonesia's representative for
Wikisource International Conference in Vienna in 2015. He is the head
of WMID Digitalization project and overseeing eight other WMID
contractors. He graduated from English literature and all around pretty
shy.
Rinto Jiang (email: Rintojiang(a)gmail.com), user:rintojiang
Rinto is a long time Indonesian Wikipedian and one of Wikimedia
Indonesia founders. Currently he lives between Taiwan and Indonesia,
Rinto is a father, an executive manager and a marketing strategist.
Kartika Sari Henry (email:kartika.sary.henry@wikimedia.or.id),
user:22Kartika
Kartika is a prolific writer, winning the 2010 Free Your Knowledge
writing competition she has been writing her way out of a lot of
things. Currently studying her master in Royal Melbourne University
(RMIT) her interest is so vast - from philosophical to practical
things. I wouldn't even bother to write it here.
Ricky Setiawan (email:ricky.stwn@gmail.com) user:BlackKnight
Ricky is a long time wikipedian, graduated from management maajor from
University in Indonesia and he is now working as a marketing for OLO
Rattan.
Best regards,
Siska Doviana
--
*Isabella Apriyana*
*Sekretaris Jendral (Secretary General)*
*Wikimedia Indonesia*
Seluler +6281213700084
Surel isabella.apriyana(a)wikimedia.or.id
Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan!
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
Support us to free the knowledge!
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
--
*Isabella Apriyana*
*Anggota (Member)*
*Wikimedia Indonesia*
Seluler +6281213700084
Surel isabella.apriyana(a)wikimedia.or.id
Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan!
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
Support us to free the knowledge!
http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi
Circling back to a subject that I've mentioned before, I favor having
meetings of the WMF Board be open and recorded by default, with limited
exceptions for discussions of legally privileged information and other
subjects for which there is a strong reason that deliberations should
remain private. Note that "wiki-political sensitivity" is not one of those
reasons.
I hope that recent events illustrate that it may be better to be
transparent from the beginning than try to suppress information that
eventually leaks out or emerges after a lengthy series of questions.
The WMF Board minutes tend to be brief, and the Board's deliberations are
rarely public. This is disappointing for an organization in the open source
movement. WMF should be an exemplar of transparent and open governance.
To illustrate the kind of detail that can be omitted from Board minutes and
the temptation to omit information for questionable reasons, I suggest this
clip from the British satire "Yes, Minister", in which two civil servants
discuss the Prime Minister's wish to suppress the publication of a chapter
of a book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKjShmHw7s
I hope that, as the WMF Board moves forward, it transforms into a model of
transparency and openness; less "Yes, Minister" and paralysis and
resistance to the community, and more transparency and vigor in public
service. Having WMF Board meetings be open and recorded by default would be
a wonderful step in aligning the Board with the value of transparency.
Pine
Dear all,
voting for the affiliate-selected board seats is starting today, and
will end on May 8 (results will be announced shortly after that).
Ten people nominated - which is more than in any previous round - and
all nominations got an endorsement. Therefore, we have ten candidates
running:
* Christophe Henner (schiste)
* Jan Ainali (Ainali)
* Kunal Mehta (Legoktm)
* Leigh Thelmadatter (Thelmadatter)
* Lodewijk Gelauff (Effeietsanders)
* Maarten Deneckere (MADe)
* Nataliia Tymkiv (antanana)
* Osmar Valdebenito (B1mbo)
* Siska Doviana (Siska.Doviana)
* Susanna Mkrtchyan (SusikMkr)
For the nomination statements, see:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Nominat…
While only chapters and thematic organizations are eligible to vote,
anyone is encouraged to ask questions, either to all the candidates:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questio…
or to specific candidates in the talk page of their nomination.
Chris Keating
Lorenzo Losa
Lane Rasberry
- election facilitators
hi jimmy,
i asked on the facebook group wikipeda weekly if joe/ed could publish
an upcoming blog post on wikinews. joe sutherland mentioned ".. I
simply cannot get my head around its attitude to news coverage". which
i find frightening. an editor for 10 years, tens of thousands
contributions, thousands of pages created, degree in journalism,
dissertation about news on wikipedia, administrator.[1]
jimmy, as wikinews refers an old mail of you from 2003 as the holy
grail of NPOV, could you please clarify once and for all that your
NPOV statemant you sent to wikien-l was valid for wikipedia. and not
for wikisource, wikiquote, wikinews. best on the wikinews talk page
concerning NPOV [2][4]. i understand of course that certain publishing
standards might apply - but NPOV, and "sourced" in the sense of
published somewhere else cannot be amongst them [3].
just as a note, i hate that the blog [5] opens 20 times slower than
wikinews on my mobile phone, that it is not in different languages,
that i do not have the "usual mediawiki features". i hate that
signpost [7] cannot be read on mobiles because of formatting. i hate
the glam newsletter [6] for the same reason, despite beeig again on a
different wiki, no "read in different languages". which is the main
reason i write this mail ... and asked joe why not using wikinews. and
i hate that wikinews does not use mediawiki features to properly
classify what quality an article has, e.g. "blog", "npov", etc.
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Foxj&project=en.wikipedia.org
[2] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#raphael_ho…
[3] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Pillars_of_Wikinews_writing
[4] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-November/008096.html
[5] blog: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/22/ted-wikimedia-collaboration/
[6] glam newletter: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter
[7] signpost: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost
best,
rupert
I just scanned an article: "Wikipedia is basically just another giant
bureaucracy",
http://www.sciencealert.com/wikipedia-is-basically-just-another-old-fashion…
and it is astonishing how bad it is.
I don't really quibble with the headline - it is a bureaucracy, but some of
the content of the article is head-scratching.
For example, how many editors do you know who have achieved the rank of
super-contributor?
Can one take an article seriously that blunders this badly?
Phil
Hello everyone,
The reading team's interaction consultation
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_Interaction_Consultation> has been
wrapped up. Thanks for those who created new accounts in order to
participate and thanks to those who spent time writing proposals and adding
ideas. All in all we have 26 ideas. Some ideas are more relevant to the
topic of interaction than others, and some seemed more feasible than
others, so with these two parameters in mind, relevance and feasibility,
we have put together a shortlist, and added them as potential ideas for
brainstorming for Q1
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Quarterly_planning/Q1. The
conversation can continue on the talk pages for each proposal or on the
talk page of Q1 planning. We added ideas to Q1 planning, which is the
earliest planning stage at the momet, however, ideas that don't get a
chance for further research or implementation in Q1, will be still be
considered for Q2, and other future plans, this is not the end of it :-).
This has been an interesting experiment, with lots of learning that
extended beyond the topic of interactivity, starting from how to avoid
jargon language on mailing lists, all the way, to how we really need to
enhance our mobile experiment to better serve our community engagement
through mobile.
Thanks to Wikimedia Foundation's communication team for their help with
promoting the consultation through our different non-wiki venues, and once
again thanks to all volunteers and staff who spent time in adding or
discussing ideas.
We are looking forward to the second phase of discussion, and to
possibilities of having proposals implemented starting Q1 or a distant
future to follow.
All the best,
Moushira
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Derek V.Giroulle <
derekvgiroulle(a)wikimedia.be> wrote:
> Hello Moushira,
>
> Iḿ sorry i didn't say this explicitely , i was n persoanlly attacking you
> i was as you point out focussing the critic at jargon use in the WMF
>
> thanks
> derek
>
>
> On 16-03-16 17:58, Richard Symonds wrote:
>
>> Thanks Moushira :-)
>> On 16 Mar 2016 16:55, "Moushira Elamrawy" <melamrawy(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> I see that we have an interesting input here.
>>>
>>> Let me add further context, not to give any excuses but to put things in
>>> their perspective. This has nothing do to with corporate or jargon
>>> Silicon
>>> Valley culture, as I simply don't live in the US, and I don't have any
>>> corporate background :). I come from a design background, and while I am
>>> not a native English speaker, I didn't encounter any previous
>>> misunderstanding with using this word, in context, in the last decade,
>>> even
>>> with other non-native speakers.
>>>
>>> I now see the relevance of psychology in the use of the word "ideation"
>>> (where regardless of the article quality, we have the word used in both
>>> context
>>> <
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Ideation_%…
>>>
>>>> still)
>>>>
>>> . Given my non-medical background, and my previous use of the word,
>>> without
>>> failing to deliver what I needed to express at any point earlier, I,
>>> therefore, made a choice to include it in my email, which I wrote by
>>> myself
>>> without peer review.
>>>
>>> I see the point around the Foundation's seemingly repeated pattern of
>>> using
>>> words (or abbreviation) that aren't widely understood outside their
>>> context, or by a broader audience. While this is a valid concern, I just
>>> wanted to point out that our case here, is a matter of me failing to
>>> choose
>>> a term that isn't apparently jargon, because sometimes it is tricky to
>>> decide.
>>>
>>> Again, this is a good lesson on the importance of simplifying and
>>> globalizing my choice of words (oh, globalize could be jargon..no, not
>>> again ;).
>>>
>>> Point taken, thanks again everyone.
>>>
>>> Moushira
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Oliver Keyes <ironholds(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> While I agree with people that it's an uncommon and exclusionary
>>>> phrase (and a confusing one!) it seems like Moushira fully
>>>> acknowledges this and is going to work harder on this sort of problem
>>>> in the future, for which I laud her.
>>>>
>>>> If we want to have a general conversation about language choice at the
>>>> WMF, broadly-construed, it seems like it would be best to kick off a
>>>> new thread to avoid the appearance of a pileon.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Derek V.Giroulle
>>>> <derekvgiroulle(a)wikimedia.be> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone ,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Fae and Craig,
>>>>> It's foreign jargon especially in this context , and on top of that
>>>>>
>>>> jargon
>>>>
>>>>> form a professional background where the term has been misused (imho)
>>>>> It has in my jargon the connotation of obsessively recurring idea ,
>>>>>
>>>> like
>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> depressed patient
>>>>> always coming back to ideas of suicide : the suicidal ideation
>>>>> It would be the only place where i would allow fosuch reductive jargon
>>>>> because it has precise meaning
>>>>> i wouls never associate it with idea generation or brainstorming what
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>
>>>> wrong with using those words
>>>>> as craig indicated : cringe worthy (business) jargon
>>>>> the mere fact that product design (business ing general) is stealing a
>>>>>
>>>> word
>>>>
>>>>> form other jargon
>>>>> show a lack of creativity of innovation
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to call on the communications dept to start - and i can
>>>>>
>>>> just
>>>>
>>>>> picture someone for that task - a campaign
>>>>> at WMF to ban jargon "simply says it better"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> derek
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16-03-16 04:39, Craig Franklin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Moushira,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem when you use jargon like "ideation" in this context is
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>
>>>> you're essentially excluding anyone who isn't familiar with the
>>>>>>
>>>>> particular
>>>>
>>>>> terminology used in the field. Especially so when there are plenty of
>>>>>> plain-English alternatives that can be used in its place. Note that
>>>>>>
>>>>> there
>>>>
>>>>> is a whole bunch of thought from experts that that word in particular
>>>>>>
>>>>> is a
>>>>
>>>>> particularly obnoxious piece of jargon:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/26/pf/corporate-jargon/
>>>>>> * https://hbr.org/2008/08/why-jargon-feeds-on-lazy-minds.html
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> http://www.lifed.com/10-cringeworthy-business-jargon-examples-that-should-b…
>>>
>>>> It's hardly the worst example I've seen out of the WMF, but while
>>>>>>
>>>>> we're
>>>
>>>> on
>>>>
>>>>> the topic it should be pointed out. Just because it's used elsewhere,
>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>> doesn't mean that the WMF has to fall into the same trap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 March 2016 at 10:07, Moushira Elamrawy <melamrawy(a)wikimedia.org
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Fae,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>>> Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> these
>>>>
>>>>> fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
>>>>>>> generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure though if the factors that you have listed are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> relevant;
>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>> think it is a matter of using a word in a certain context where it
>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>> fits, without realizing how a broader audience would perceive it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any case, thanks for the note :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_%28creative_process%29
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moushira
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> melamrawy(a)wikimedia.org
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> engagement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
>>>>>>>> however there seems to be a lot of odd jargon in Wikimedia
>>>>>>>> announcements over the last few months. It would be great to see
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more
>>>
>>>> 'official' emails aimed at volunteers, written in plain and
>>>>>>>> grammatically complete English. Phrases like "ideation phase" may be
>>>>>>>> frequently used during meetings at the Wikimedia Foundation offices,
>>>>>>>> but are unlikely to be heard in real life by volunteer contributors,
>>>>>>>> and are unlikely to be easily understood outside of corporate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> America,
>>>
>>>> especially by those without English as their first language.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry again about picking at your announcement rather than any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> other,
>>>
>>>> it just stood out today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Fae
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> faewik(a)gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
>>>>>>>>
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