phoebe ayers wrote:
> On 10/9/07, David Strauss <david(a)fourkitchens.com> wrote:
>> Cary Bass wrote:
>>> The Jury for Wikimania 2008 bids have met and are pleased to announce
>>> that Wikimania 2008 will be held in Alexandria, Egypt.
>> I'm offended that the desire to have Wikimania hop around the globe
>> (rotation) trumps the egregious history Egypt has with LGBT and other
>> civil rights (local laws). While visitors to Egypt are certainly not at
>> the same risk, I refuse to spend any money in a country that -- as
>> recently as 2004 -- sentenced someone to 17 years of prison and two
>> years of hard labor for posting a personal ad on a gay website[1]. A
>> blogger was imprisoned in 2007 for four years for "insulting Islam and
>> defaming the President of Egypt."[2] Jimmy Wales even attended the
>> Amnesty conference denouncing the censorship. No legal or cultural
>> reforms since give me confidence that the situation has improved.
>>
>> Wikimedia and its projects have an abundance of people from marginalized
>> groups and political advocacy organizations participating at every
>> level. A place that persecutes, censors, and prosecutes such groups
>> under the banner of snuffing out "Satanism" is not a location that
>> affirms the pluralism and intellectual freedom of Wikimedia.
>>
>> People raised these objections early in the bidding process, but I have
>
> As a jury member, I do not remember any comments from you on this
> subject, David; perhaps I missed them. At any rate, what are you
> trying to accomplish by sending this message after the winner was
> announced, and not before when we were discussing the bids?
Other people raised these objections during the bidding process; I
didn't have to. Even if no one had brought the issue up, everyone on the
voting team should have been aware enough of the problems to them under
consideration without further prompting.
I thought it was a foregone conclusion that Egypt's human rights record
would cripple the bid enough that it wouldn't win.
> Wikimania and Wikimedia are both global in scope, which means that
> while we can condemn censorship and loss of human rights everywhere
So the "condemnation" amounts to docking a modest number of points for
"local laws"?
> we must also take into account a global range of values.
What is this supposed to mean? How can we balance condemnation with
toleration?
> Our projects
> focus specifically on free knowledge, and I expect that will be
> highlighted at the conference.
Even putting gay rights aside, Egypt's record of imprisoning political
and religious dissidents is directly counter to affirming "free knowledge."
Hi folks,
As week one draws to a close, I just wanted to say thanks for all the very
kind welcomes I've gotten from you all, both here & off this list. Many
people have jumped in to help me get acclimated, which I really appreciate
(as you all know, there's a truly dizzying amount of stuff to soak up :-)
So please consider this a collective thanks to everyone I haven't gotten
back to individually.
And - I want to offer my apologies in advance to anyone or any issue I'm
going to overlook in this first little while. A) I'm still getting my head
around many of the internal systems (e.g., the wikis, mailing lists, etc.),
and B) I'm wanting to focus on making first connections with a few people,
particularly the office staff. Those are my modest goals for this past week
and next; then, I've got a prior commitment that will take me completely
offline from July 7-25. That means my work won't really begin until
post-Wikimania.
I think you probably all have an idea of what I'm here to do. But to recap -
I'm a big fan of the projects, and I'm delighted to be able to come and work
with you all. And I am hoping and expecting I can help. In general: it's
clear to me, and also to the Board, that the Foundation is at a pretty
significant transition point. The bad news is, it's got some problems (lack
of administrative policies, some communications issues, some skills gaps,
etc.). The good news is, the problems are unsurprising, and for the most
part typical of young organizations, and completely fixable. Upshot: I've
seen -and grappled with- this kind of thing elsewhere, and I have a pretty
good general grasp of the kinds of things that need to happen in order for
the Foundation to get through this phase, and come out the other side
stronger and better. (The other good news, by the way, is that the projects
are -obviously- remarkably, phenomenally successful. So the core work of the
organization is in good shape.)
Of course there's an added wrinkle here, which is that Wikimedia is truly
culturally unique; it is not a 'typical' organization. Trust me - I
recognize that, and I'll respect it :-)
So again - I just wanted to thank you all for your early support. If anyone
needs to reach me over the next week or so, I'd suggest using
susanpgardner[at]gmail.com - I'm a Blackberry person, and that's the account
that travels with me.
Thanks,
Sue
On 30/06/07, foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <
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> 3. Cloaks backlog (Sean Whitton)
> 4. Re: Welcome Sue ! (THD)
> 5. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 6. Re: Meta-l (GerardM)
> 7. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 8. Re: Meta-l (GerardM)
> 9. Re: Meta-l (Michael Bimmler)
> 10. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 11. just an idea: add motivation commentary line, anonymized?
> (oscar van dillen)
> 12. Re: just an idea: add motivation commentary line, anonymized?
> (Aphaia)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:47:46 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <4684FF72.5090503(a)anthere.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > On 6/28/07, Stephen Bain
> <stephen.bain-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> Secondly, and this is directed more at the Board, I understand that
> >> Sue has been hired as a "consultant and special advisor" and not as
> >> Executive Director at least partly because of immigration-related
> >> restrictions on the work she is presently entitled to perform in the
> >> United States. Will the Board be providing the community with a
> >> description of the position "consultant and special advisor"? Are
> >> there any substantive differences between this position and that of
> >> Executive Director?
> >
> > I see no particular reason not to post Sue's job description, but I'll
> > ask the Chair to confirm that.
> >
> > The differences between a Board-level consultant and a freshly minted
> > ED aren't that great, as the Board needs to build a trust relationship
> > with this new staff member in either case. Beyond 3-6 months in the
> > future, should the professional relationship develop as expected, this
> > status will become too limiting, and I hope the remaining constraints
> > can be removed within that timeframe.
>
>
> Hello
>
> I am sorry, but I was not able to find an internet connection in the
> past 36 hours, and will probably be off for the week end. That was my
> last move of june (*relief*).
>
> So, yeah, things to be done
>
> * publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
> * remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
> on foundation
> * create her asap a sgardner at wikimedia.org
> * add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and internal wiki, office wiki,
> wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
> fundcom-l.
> * add her on staff page on foundation wiki
> * add her biography on foundation wiki
> * add the press release on foundation wiki
> * add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
> release" and biography
> * then breath and wait till monday :-)
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:57:10 +0900
> From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
> To: anthere(a)wikimedia.org, "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <35be2a710706290557u63129c5ar78d59f02c4966e49(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 6/29/07, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
> > So, yeah, things to be done
> >
> > * publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
> > * remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
> > on foundation
> Done
> > * create her asap a sgardner at wikimedia.org
> Done and sent
> > * add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and internal wiki, office wiki,
> > wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
> > fundcom-l.
> > * add her on staff page on foundation wiki
> > * add her biography on foundation wiki
> > * add the press release on foundation wiki
> > * add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
> > release" and biography
> > * then breath and wait till monday :-)
>
> * cough * vote, * cough* vote
>
> --
> KIZU Naoko
> Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
> * habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:02:53 +0100
> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean(a)silentflame.com>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Cloaks backlog
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <c13e6b500706290602r5f5cb3deke33e08e1ce1610a3(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> Just a quick note to let you all know that your cloak requests have
> not been forgotten.
>
> There is a problem with the toolserver that means I can't access the
> list of submissions and also that new ones are not being accepted.
> They are however, I believe, all in there and so it is just a matter
> of getting at them when the toolserver admins fix things.
>
> Please spread this knowledge if people ask, and thank you for your
> patience.
>
> --
> Regards,
> ?Sean Whitton (seanw)
> http://seanwhitton.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:39:38 +0800
> From: THD <theodoranian(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome Sue !
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <63075c310706290639u4c07a52dr9ec7356fe61cef0f(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Welcome aboard, Sue.
>
>
> :)
>
> Theodoranian
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:24:03 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290724y45753752n85f736081fc5c67e(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
> and governance be discusses in the meta list
> azdiyy
>
> On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/28/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > > What is meant by MetaWiki ?
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Bain
> > stephen.bain(a)gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:29:33 +0200
> From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <41a006820706290729t3218e605u4ecf12bf130c8181(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hoi,
> That is exactly what the foundation-l is for I would say.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
> > and governance be discusses in the meta list?
> >
> > azdiyy
> >
> > On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 6/28/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > What is meant by MetaWiki ?
> > >
> > > http://meta.wikimedia.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Bain
> > > stephen.bain(a)gmail.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > foundation-l mailing list
> > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:48:47 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290748n4726a975h5fc142e00fe1dfeb(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> protected my talkpage.
> time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
>
> thanks,
> azdiyy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:51:51 +0200
> From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <41a006820706290751r4bd38203m86e5b5795b27dd86(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hoi,
> It is a great start that will ensure that nobody will subscribe to this
> list.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> > [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> > protected my talkpage.
> > time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
> >
> > thanks,
> > azdiyy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:39:13 +0200
> From: "Michael Bimmler" <mbimmler(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <353e9f360706290839u12db29d4qc6b1f4c397be187(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> You've lost me here... First you talk of "chapters, board and
> governance" and then of your meta block. Sure you recognise that these
> two things are not really the same?
> Michael
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> > [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> > protected my talkpage.
> > time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
> >
> > thanks,
> > azdiyy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:52:14 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290852i23b5110bwbd7daa9f80edb7ac(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/030517.html
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10098
>
> what do you suggest if admins on irc do not want to get involved,
> foundation list is no the place, and friends of teh blocking admin
> dont want to upset him?
> an azdiyy list that no one reads? bug=?
>
> azdiyy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:18:28 +0200
> From: "oscar van dillen" <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary line,
> anonymized?
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <d3f9d3df0706300118u5df749d7n7147506986d736a(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> just a thought that spontaneously came to me this morning which i would
> like
> to share:
> (i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
> #wikimedia)
>
> [09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not be
> interesting to read the answers to an imaginary questionnaire about the
> final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
> such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it existed?[09:51]<
> oscar>like a commentary line as we have in edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
> oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
> (...)
> [09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
> [09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who knows
> what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there could be several reasons for
> doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
> in
> general and perhaps reading each other's comments is useful as
> well?[10:03]<
> oscar>afterwards of course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
> (end of quote)
>
> curious about your opinions!
>
> best regards,
> oscar
>
> --
> *edito ergo sum*
>
> DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the
> Wikimedia Foundation nor of its Board of Trustees.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:31:39 +0900
> From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary
> line, anonymized?
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <35be2a710706300131l2bb6e583xe6be7256b2c1afcf(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I had a similar - but opponent in its appearance inquiry last year.
> "Why did you not vote". It helps me to organize this year Election. At
> least PR for this community I asked their opinion.
>
> But I'd love to consider such after the election. Now seeing
> non-English communities hesitation for involvement (in Day 1, among
> 1100 votes, over 500 have come from enwiki alone, and there are only
> two other community over 100 votes were casted).
>
> Thanks,
>
> On 6/30/07, oscar van dillen <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > just a thought that spontaneously came to me this morning which i would
> like
> > to share:
> > (i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
> > #wikimedia)
> >
> > [09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not
> be
> > interesting to read the answers to an imaginary questionnaire about the
> > final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
> > such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it
> existed?[09:51]<
> > oscar>like a commentary line as we have in edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
> > oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
> > (...)
> > [09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
> > [09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who
> knows
> > what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there could be several reasons for
> > doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
> in
> > general and perhaps reading each other's comments is useful as
> well?[10:03]<
> > oscar>afterwards of course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
> > (end of quote)
> >
> > curious about your opinions!
> >
> > best regards,
> > oscar
> >
> > --
> > *edito ergo sum*
> >
> > DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the
> > Wikimedia Foundation nor of its Board of Trustees.
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> --
> KIZU Naoko
> Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
> * habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
>
>
>
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>
> End of foundation-l Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
> ********************************************
>
I'm forwarding this on behalf of Melissa Hagemann, a member of the
Foundation's Advisory Board.
Angela
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Melissa Hagemann <MHagemann(a)sorosny.org>
Date: Nov 30, 2007 6:31 AM
Hi folks,
To help support the further development of a movement around open
educational resources, many of us have come together to develop the Cape
Town Open Education Declaration. Today we did a soft launch of the site,
http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/. We hope that the declaration will
serve as a rallying point for the development of open educational
resources as the Budapest Open Access Initiative did for open access to
research literature.
The declaration comes out of a meeting the Shuttleworth Foundation and
OSI organized in Cape Town in September. Many friends of the Wikimedia
Foundation have been involved in the development of the declaration -
Jimmy and Heather joined us in Cape Town and Peter Suber added his own
magic touch to the collaborative writing of the declaration.
The declaration will be fully launched in January. Over the next six
weeks, we are collecting signatures of support. So if you are interested
in the further development of open educational resources, please
complete this form,
http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/sign-the-declaration so that you can
be listed as an early signatory to the declaration. We are also
collecting signatures from high profile individuals and organizations to
sign on before the launch. If you have suggestions for these, please
email me directly.
Thanks for your help!
Cheers,
Melissa
Hmmm, advertising in Wikipedia?
Just now, I came a across a 5-minute promotional video listed as "Fair Use"
embedded in an article. The article was Chicago Spire, a new building planned
for Chicago, and the video was by the architectural firm that is planning
the building (scheduled for completion in 2010). For the record, it has been
there since October 11. Oh, you might also note that the relevant article is
the number 2 Google hit for the building.
As for my insane suggestion, send the company a bill for one and a half
months of free Internet advertising. That should help with the fundraiser a bit.
Danny
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