Hoi,
I have asked and received permission to forward to you all this most
excellent bit of news.
The linguist list, is a most excellent resource for people interested in the
field of linguistics. As I mentioned some time ago they have had a funding
drive and in that funding drive they asked for a certain amount of money in
a given amount of days and they would then have a project on Wikipedia to
learn what needs doing to get better coverage for the field of linguistics.
What you will read in this mail that the total community of linguists are
asked to cooperate. I am really thrilled as it will also get us more
linguists interested in what we do. My hope is that a fraction will be
interested in the languages that they care for and help it become more
relevant. As a member of the "language prevention committee", I love to get
more knowledgeable people involved in our smaller projects. If it means that
we get more requests for more projects we will really feel embarrassed with
all the new projects we will have to approve because of the quality of the
Incubator content and the quality of the linguistic arguments why we should
approve yet another language :)
NB Is this not a really clever way of raising money; give us this much in
this time frame and we will then do this as a bonus...
Thanks,
GerardM
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Date: 18-Jun-2007
From: Hannah Morales < hannah(a)linguistlist.org >
Subject: Wikipedia Volunteers
-------------------------Message 1 ----------------------------------
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 12:49:35
From: Hannah Morales < hannah(a)linguistlist.org >
Subject: Wikipedia Volunteers
Dear subscribers,
As you may recall, one of our Fund Drive 2007 campaigns was called the
"Wikipedia Update Vote." We asked our viewers to consider earmarking their
donations to organize an update project on linguistics entries in the
English-language Wikipedia. You can find more background information on this
at:
http://linguistlist.org/donation/fund-drive2007/wikipedia/index.cfm.
The speed with which we met our goal, thanks to the interest and generosity
of
our readers, was a sure sign that the linguistics community was enthusiastic
about the idea. Now that summer is upon us, and some of you may have a bit
more
leisure time, we are hoping that you will be able to help us get started on
the
Wikipedia project. The LINGUIST List's role in this project is a purely
organizational one. We will:
*Help, with your input, to identify major gaps in the Wikipedia materials or
pages that need improvement;
*Compile a list of linguistics pages that Wikipedia editors have identified
as
"in need of attention from an expert on the subject" or " does not cite any
references or sources," etc;
*Send out periodical calls for volunteer contributors on specific topics or
articles;
*Provide simple instructions on how to upload your entries into Wikipedia;
*Keep track of our project Wikipedians;
*Keep track of revisions and new entries;
*Work with Wikimedia Foundation to publicize the linguistics community's
efforts.
We hope you are as enthusiastic about this effort as we are. Just to help us
all
get started looking at Wikipedia more critically, and to easily identify an
area
needing improvement, we suggest that you take a look at the List of
Linguists
page at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_linguists. M
Many people are not listed there; others need to have more facts and
information
added. If you would like to participate in this exciting update effort,
please
respond by sending an email to LINGUIST Editor Hannah Morales at
hannah(a)linguistlist.org, suggesting what your role might be or which
linguistics
entries you feel should be updated or added. Some linguists who saw our
campaign
on the Internet have already written us with specific suggestions, which we
will
share with you soon.
This update project will take major time and effort on all our parts. The
end
result will be a much richer internet resource of information on the breadth
and
depth of the field of linguistics. Our efforts should also stimulate
prospective
students to consider studying linguistics and to educate a wider public on
what
we do. Please consider participating.
Sincerely,
Hannah Morales
Editor, Wikipedia Update Project
Linguistic Field(s): Not Applicable
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Hi folks,
As week one draws to a close, I just wanted to say thanks for all the very
kind welcomes I've gotten from you all, both here & off this list. Many
people have jumped in to help me get acclimated, which I really appreciate
(as you all know, there's a truly dizzying amount of stuff to soak up :-)
So please consider this a collective thanks to everyone I haven't gotten
back to individually.
And - I want to offer my apologies in advance to anyone or any issue I'm
going to overlook in this first little while. A) I'm still getting my head
around many of the internal systems (e.g., the wikis, mailing lists, etc.),
and B) I'm wanting to focus on making first connections with a few people,
particularly the office staff. Those are my modest goals for this past week
and next; then, I've got a prior commitment that will take me completely
offline from July 7-25. That means my work won't really begin until
post-Wikimania.
I think you probably all have an idea of what I'm here to do. But to recap -
I'm a big fan of the projects, and I'm delighted to be able to come and work
with you all. And I am hoping and expecting I can help. In general: it's
clear to me, and also to the Board, that the Foundation is at a pretty
significant transition point. The bad news is, it's got some problems (lack
of administrative policies, some communications issues, some skills gaps,
etc.). The good news is, the problems are unsurprising, and for the most
part typical of young organizations, and completely fixable. Upshot: I've
seen -and grappled with- this kind of thing elsewhere, and I have a pretty
good general grasp of the kinds of things that need to happen in order for
the Foundation to get through this phase, and come out the other side
stronger and better. (The other good news, by the way, is that the projects
are -obviously- remarkably, phenomenally successful. So the core work of the
organization is in good shape.)
Of course there's an added wrinkle here, which is that Wikimedia is truly
culturally unique; it is not a 'typical' organization. Trust me - I
recognize that, and I'll respect it :-)
So again - I just wanted to thank you all for your early support. If anyone
needs to reach me over the next week or so, I'd suggest using
susanpgardner[at]gmail.com - I'm a Blackberry person, and that's the account
that travels with me.
Thanks,
Sue
On 30/06/07, foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <
foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> Send foundation-l mailing list submissions to
> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> foundation-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of foundation-l digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Sue (todos) (Florence Devouard)
> 2. Re: Sue (todos) (Aphaia)
> 3. Cloaks backlog (Sean Whitton)
> 4. Re: Welcome Sue ! (THD)
> 5. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 6. Re: Meta-l (GerardM)
> 7. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 8. Re: Meta-l (GerardM)
> 9. Re: Meta-l (Michael Bimmler)
> 10. Re: Meta-l (Azdiyy)
> 11. just an idea: add motivation commentary line, anonymized?
> (oscar van dillen)
> 12. Re: just an idea: add motivation commentary line, anonymized?
> (Aphaia)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:47:46 +0200
> From: Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <4684FF72.5090503(a)anthere.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > On 6/28/07, Stephen Bain
> <stephen.bain-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> Secondly, and this is directed more at the Board, I understand that
> >> Sue has been hired as a "consultant and special advisor" and not as
> >> Executive Director at least partly because of immigration-related
> >> restrictions on the work she is presently entitled to perform in the
> >> United States. Will the Board be providing the community with a
> >> description of the position "consultant and special advisor"? Are
> >> there any substantive differences between this position and that of
> >> Executive Director?
> >
> > I see no particular reason not to post Sue's job description, but I'll
> > ask the Chair to confirm that.
> >
> > The differences between a Board-level consultant and a freshly minted
> > ED aren't that great, as the Board needs to build a trust relationship
> > with this new staff member in either case. Beyond 3-6 months in the
> > future, should the professional relationship develop as expected, this
> > status will become too limiting, and I hope the remaining constraints
> > can be removed within that timeframe.
>
>
> Hello
>
> I am sorry, but I was not able to find an internet connection in the
> past 36 hours, and will probably be off for the week end. That was my
> last move of june (*relief*).
>
> So, yeah, things to be done
>
> * publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
> * remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
> on foundation
> * create her asap a sgardner at wikimedia.org
> * add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and internal wiki, office wiki,
> wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
> fundcom-l.
> * add her on staff page on foundation wiki
> * add her biography on foundation wiki
> * add the press release on foundation wiki
> * add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
> release" and biography
> * then breath and wait till monday :-)
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:57:10 +0900
> From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
> To: anthere(a)wikimedia.org, "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <35be2a710706290557u63129c5ar78d59f02c4966e49(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> On 6/29/07, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
> > So, yeah, things to be done
> >
> > * publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
> > * remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
> > on foundation
> Done
> > * create her asap a sgardner at wikimedia.org
> Done and sent
> > * add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and internal wiki, office wiki,
> > wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
> > fundcom-l.
> > * add her on staff page on foundation wiki
> > * add her biography on foundation wiki
> > * add the press release on foundation wiki
> > * add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
> > release" and biography
> > * then breath and wait till monday :-)
>
> * cough * vote, * cough* vote
>
> --
> KIZU Naoko
> Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
> * habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:02:53 +0100
> From: "Sean Whitton" <sean(a)silentflame.com>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] Cloaks backlog
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <c13e6b500706290602r5f5cb3deke33e08e1ce1610a3(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
> Just a quick note to let you all know that your cloak requests have
> not been forgotten.
>
> There is a problem with the toolserver that means I can't access the
> list of submissions and also that new ones are not being accepted.
> They are however, I believe, all in there and so it is just a matter
> of getting at them when the toolserver admins fix things.
>
> Please spread this knowledge if people ask, and thank you for your
> patience.
>
> --
> Regards,
> ?Sean Whitton (seanw)
> http://seanwhitton.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:39:38 +0800
> From: THD <theodoranian(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome Sue !
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <63075c310706290639u4c07a52dr9ec7356fe61cef0f(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Welcome aboard, Sue.
>
>
> :)
>
> Theodoranian
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:24:03 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290724y45753752n85f736081fc5c67e(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
> and governance be discusses in the meta list
> azdiyy
>
> On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 6/28/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hoi,
> > > What is meant by MetaWiki ?
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Bain
> > stephen.bain(a)gmail.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:29:33 +0200
> From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <41a006820706290729t3218e605u4ecf12bf130c8181(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hoi,
> That is exactly what the foundation-l is for I would say.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
> > and governance be discusses in the meta list?
> >
> > azdiyy
> >
> > On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 6/28/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > What is meant by MetaWiki ?
> > >
> > > http://meta.wikimedia.org
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Bain
> > > stephen.bain(a)gmail.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > foundation-l mailing list
> > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:48:47 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290748n4726a975h5fc142e00fe1dfeb(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> protected my talkpage.
> time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
>
> thanks,
> azdiyy
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:51:51 +0200
> From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <41a006820706290751r4bd38203m86e5b5795b27dd86(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hoi,
> It is a great start that will ensure that nobody will subscribe to this
> list.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> > [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> > protected my talkpage.
> > time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
> >
> > thanks,
> > azdiyy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:39:13 +0200
> From: "Michael Bimmler" <mbimmler(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <353e9f360706290839u12db29d4qc6b1f4c397be187(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> You've lost me here... First you talk of "chapters, board and
> governance" and then of your meta block. Sure you recognise that these
> two things are not really the same?
> Michael
>
> On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
> > [[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
> > protected my talkpage.
> > time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
> >
> > thanks,
> > azdiyy
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:52:14 +0100
> From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6af34c650706290852i23b5110bwbd7daa9f80edb7ac(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/030517.html
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10098
>
> what do you suggest if admins on irc do not want to get involved,
> foundation list is no the place, and friends of teh blocking admin
> dont want to upset him?
> an azdiyy list that no one reads? bug=?
>
> azdiyy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:18:28 +0200
> From: "oscar van dillen" <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org>
> Subject: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary line,
> anonymized?
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <d3f9d3df0706300118u5df749d7n7147506986d736a(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> just a thought that spontaneously came to me this morning which i would
> like
> to share:
> (i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
> #wikimedia)
>
> [09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not be
> interesting to read the answers to an imaginary questionnaire about the
> final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
> such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it existed?[09:51]<
> oscar>like a commentary line as we have in edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
> oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
> (...)
> [09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
> [09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who knows
> what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there could be several reasons for
> doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
> in
> general and perhaps reading each other's comments is useful as
> well?[10:03]<
> oscar>afterwards of course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
> (end of quote)
>
> curious about your opinions!
>
> best regards,
> oscar
>
> --
> *edito ergo sum*
>
> DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the
> Wikimedia Foundation nor of its Board of Trustees.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:31:39 +0900
> From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary
> line, anonymized?
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <35be2a710706300131l2bb6e583xe6be7256b2c1afcf(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I had a similar - but opponent in its appearance inquiry last year.
> "Why did you not vote". It helps me to organize this year Election. At
> least PR for this community I asked their opinion.
>
> But I'd love to consider such after the election. Now seeing
> non-English communities hesitation for involvement (in Day 1, among
> 1100 votes, over 500 have come from enwiki alone, and there are only
> two other community over 100 votes were casted).
>
> Thanks,
>
> On 6/30/07, oscar van dillen <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > just a thought that spontaneously came to me this morning which i would
> like
> > to share:
> > (i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
> > #wikimedia)
> >
> > [09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not
> be
> > interesting to read the answers to an imaginary questionnaire about the
> > final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
> > such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it
> existed?[09:51]<
> > oscar>like a commentary line as we have in edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
> > oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
> > (...)
> > [09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
> > [09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who
> knows
> > what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there could be several reasons for
> > doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
> in
> > general and perhaps reading each other's comments is useful as
> well?[10:03]<
> > oscar>afterwards of course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
> > (end of quote)
> >
> > curious about your opinions!
> >
> > best regards,
> > oscar
> >
> > --
> > *edito ergo sum*
> >
> > DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the
> > Wikimedia Foundation nor of its Board of Trustees.
> > _______________________________________________
> > foundation-l mailing list
> > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
> >
>
>
> --
> KIZU Naoko
> Wikiquote: http://wikiquote.org
> * habent enim emolumentum in labore suo *
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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On the Moldavian Wikipedia it says for over a month "This wiki has been
closed for now." Is there any outlook on whether 'for now' means 'for ever'
or that it will be re-opened at some time? I am asking because I want to
know what to do with the interwiki for the bot. If the wiki is closed down
for good, I intend to remove them silently; if it will be opened up again
some time soon, I want to keep them in the same way as to 'normal'
Wikipedias.
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Andre Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com
ICQ: 6260644 -- Skype: a_engels
... that every time community input is asked on a subject by a board
member, little to none is given?
And why is it that every time the same things that were put up for
discussion are said "approved' or "official" suddenly everyone finds
something to say?
Shouldn't it be the other around?
Delphine
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On 8/26/07, Ed Brown <ed.brown(a)wikinewsie.org> wrote:
>
> notafishz raises the question of whether WikiMedia/Wikinews should "fork"
> into several different directions, or try to retain some central edit
> consistency and a focal point on the Main. I am totally against "forking"
> and splintering off. Focus under those circumstances would be lost, and with
> that, the impact that a central place for reporting accords.
>
> Accommodation of the special interests seems to me to best route, and by
> that I mean pages that are not NPOV. The good stuff makes Main Page. The
> other stuff hasn't found a place yet.... that's the challenge for Wikinews.
>
> Yes, we understand how participation improves an article. Lacking
> participation, we also understand how the lack of it does not diminish the
> news value of it. The trouble is how to deal with it in an inclusive manner.
It is interesting how my email has been interpreted. I never meant to
say or even hint at the fact that Wikinews should lose any kind of
focus, or any kind of principles (that of NPOV etc.). Never ever. I
meant to say that Wikinewsies may find out there in the wide wide
world people who are like minded and share the same kind of values,
and that those could make good people to partner with.
In the end, I must say that I am a bit disappointed at the reactions
about "finding" other people to partner with. Too many answers, to my
liking, were along the lines "but we are the only ones like that".
Well, guess what? I don't think so.
I am sure that there are journalists out there who would love to work
on a wiki. Or who wold love to be bound by a NPOV rile. Or even both.
They just never came across either of these tools/principles. A
reaching-out organisation would, in my opinion, be of greater benefit
than one that's navel gazing and working only towards its own good
(and I know, this is a bit caricatural, and not what has been
expressed by "everyone"). And for example, its goal could then be
"bring NPOV to the news!", which is far broader to start with than
"let's work on Wikinews". At least, I think.
In short, I was not trying to change Wikinews, but rather trying to
explore possibilities of it bringing its principles out in the world.
Delphine
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This has been brought up before, and I'm taking it into my own hands
on pushing it forward. The idea is to start hosting Betawiki on a
Wikimedia site. On a new project or merge it into an excisting one
(Incubator?). I've put up a site for discussion. Please take a look
at it and consider it.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Betawiki_being_hosted_by_Wikimedia
Best wishes
Eysteinn Guðni Guðnason
Filmmaker
Independant Herbalife distributor
Mobile: (+354) 822-3559
www.steinninn.is
I want a community-l list for much of the discussion that currently
has nowhere to go but foundation-l. I would like to keep foundation-l
for things like Board-initiated discussions and issues that people
want Board input on. (of course people will overpost there but it
can't be any worse than it is right now.) foundation-l has too many
purposes crammed into one list and I think the high traffic
discourages people from getting involved.
I also feel strange posting to foundation-l when I know I really just
want to say "community-l" (and I expect the Board would often read
there out of interest, but they wouldn't HAVE to).
cheers,
Brianna
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They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
http://modernthings.org/
Hey all,
Right now we have the Cafepress shop for T-shirts and the like, but in
general the quality of the products that Cafepress produce is pretty
low. I am told that whilst gentoo has a shop there, the conference
organisers actually use a seperate company to produce much the same
thing for the conferences due to the lack of quality described. While
I haven't bought any T-shirts from them thus far, other things I have
bought have been of similar poor quality.
So, do we presently have any alternative ways to get T-shirts? I want one!
Thanks,
Sean
Correcting spelling of "buy" in case anyone else was as confused as I was.
On 8/30/07, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> So, let's test a little bit Google's tolerance ;) (my site is on
> Google: http://www.millosh.org/by_wikipedia.png)
>
> The point is that, as you see, inside of the add ons Google has
> commercial "By Wikipedia". Even the most of problems related to
> Google's financing Wikimedia are not on the Google's side, I think
> that Google should give money for promoting non-Wikimedia sites for
> money with the phrase "By Wikipedia".
>
> On 8/30/07, Gary Kirk <gary.kirk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > No Wikimedia project is currently ad-supported, Google or otherwise. I
> > believe the stance is 'never say never', but I would think the
> > introduction of ads would be extremely unlikely and similarly
> > unpopular.
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > On 8/30/07, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I hope that a small image will pass the list.
> > >
> > > So, the question is: Does WMF have some money from such kind of Google
> > > commercials?
> > >
> >
> >
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