Just FYI :-)
The German Verein has just received a legal opinion they ordered some
time ago, concerning various legal issues for wikipedia and German law.
It turns out that, according to the legal opinion, German law prohibits
the collection of quotes, or quotes as such, if they are not used in a
context.
That would mean the German wikiquote project's legal status is shaky at
best. (IANAL)
The German PDF with the legal opinion is at [1], and as wiki code at [2].
Magnus
[1] http://www.wikimedia.de/files/Rechtsfragen_Maerz_2005.pdf
[2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rechtsfragen_M%C3%A4rz_2005
Hi,
Simple and straigthforward message...
We need to have new elections for the board of directors soon.
Which implies at the same time very probably some technical set up as well as election administrators to organise it. In the same way than last year, we would need a couple of volunteers who are not running for election to serve as election administrators. Translations work will also be needed.
Please volunteer!
Elections details are not fixed yet, but I guess we need to start make things move :-)
Jimbo will keep you informed on the matter in a little while and will very likely handle most of its organisation as a neutral party.
Ant
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I would like to suggest a few direction of thoughts...
Last year, a couple of concerns erupted before/during/after the elections.
First, some wondered what the role of the board was.
I would be pleased that some feedback is given regarding that topic
during the election. So that the next board may try to do its best for
taking community opinion into consideration.
I have also wondered if it would not be interesting that some of you
prepare a sort of short list of questions, which each candidate would
have to answer or comment.
Second, the participation rate of languages have been very diversed.
English participants represented a huge number of voters.
German were second and french third. Other languages had basically not
participated but for a very few people.
Link : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image%3AElection_participation2.png
Our project is international. It is not very suitable that such a
discrepancy exists.
I would like that all non english editors on foundation-l take special
attention in involving their projects.
Third, last year, some rather heated discussions occured when results
were not fully displayed. I would be pleased that this is set before the
election, so that editors are not surprised when results are not
published. Hence the questions : which results should be published ?
Interest and disadvantages of not publishing certain results ?
Publication of results per projects ? Only limited to bigger projects ?
Fourth, do you have overall some feedback to give on last year
organisation, so that this year organisers can take them into account ?
Thanks.
Anthere
(apologies if this is the wrong list: wikilegal-l doesn't appear to
exist anymore)
Someone pointed me to http://mysic.org/ and asked how they could join
Wikipedia's "affiliates program".
Unless someone has approved this I'm guessing mysic's use of
wikipedia's non GFDL logo, and use of the trademark in this manner,
may be infringing.
--
John Fader
I would like to suggest a few direction of thoughts...
Last year, a couple of concerns erupted before/during/after the elections.
First, some wondered what the role of the board was.
I would be pleased that some feedback is given regarding that topic
during the election. So that the next board may try to do its best for
taking community opinion into consideration.
I have also wondered if it would not be interesting that some of you
prepare a sort of short list of questions, which each candidate would
have to answer or comment.
Second, the participation rate of languages have been very diversed.
English participants represented a huge number of voters.
German were second and french third. Other languages had basically not
participated but for a very few people.
Link : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image%3AElection_participation2.png
Our project is international. It is not very suitable that such a
discrepancy exists.
I would like that all non english editors on foundation-l take special
attention in involving their projects.
Third, last year, some rather heated discussions occured when results
were not fully displayed. I would be pleased that this is set before the
election, so that editors are not surprised when results are not
published. Hence the questions : which results should be published ?
Interest and disadvantages of not publishing certain results ?
Publication of results per projects ? Only limited to bigger projects ?
Fourth, do you have overall some feedback to give on last year
organisation, so that this year organisers can take them into account ?
Thanks.
Anthere
Hello
I think it would be great if the german chapter could possibly inform us of their last activities in the past trimester, so that something can be written on Quarto about it.
Similarly, could the french chapter complete the current article, so as to include the last elections.
The way is here : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translation_requests/WQ/3/En
Another additional question : I am confused about which list is the german association one ? Last time I sent a mail to the list I thought was, it was rejected.
Could a wikimedia-de(a)wikimedia.org redirection be set up so that list keep similar naming conventions ?
Thanks
Ant
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Hello
The organisation team will be
Danny
Britty
Datrio
BjarteSorensen
We will also be helped by Tim Starling on the
technical side. Bjarte will be able to assist/control
the technical settings.
Two candidates were not kept (I explain below why,
nothing personal), and Danny suggested that we add to
the team Britty, which I thought was a very good idea.
Upon asking, she accepted.
Why did we keep these names ? (and not others...)
First, I thought a team of 3-4 was a good idea. More
would be harder to organise.
Danny was already the organiser last year, so will
bring the weight of knowledge on top of his own
abilities.
All people kept have been active for several months at
least, so know community dynamics.
All people kept are both active on meta AND on irc,
which unable vivid and immediate discussions.
People chosen represent 4 continents, several
languages and several projects. We hope that this will
further stimulate the idea the project is
international and all languages should get involved on
meta issues.
Britty represents the female touch and her involvement
in translation issues will be most appreciated. Bjarte
is a rather newcomer in the meta team (good to avoid
formation of cabal...and renew blood). Datrio is very
involved in wikinews (and should keep the team aware
all projects are involved :-)).
Here we are !
The new team has already escaped in
#wikimedia-conclave
so I can not tell you more.
We will keep them informed of the last basic
requirements soon.
If there is an opposition to one of those, please
explain why now or keep your words within you forever
;-)
Anthere
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Jimmy Wales (jwales(a)wikia.com) [050430 02:55]:
> Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
> >>The point is that many sites *do* track where specific IPs do on their sites.
> >>We need to tell readers that we don't do that - that we respect their privacy.
> > As far as I know we *do* do that, it's recored in the webserver and/or
> > cache logs along with other per-hit data.
> Yes. It's just that we store it as bulk data and don't really care what
> people are looking at individually. The developers are trusted not to
> go snooping into other people's reading habits, but there is absolutely
> no way for us to guarantee that they aren't doing it.
But then, the same holds for the sysadmins of *any* website, particularly a
top 100 site - the sysadmins, as the ones responsible for tending the
machinery, will look through the logs as the task of keeping the site
running requires; whether to optimise things for the pattern of usage or to
track noteworthy abusers. That's what sysadmins are for. No privacy policy
can reasonably be taken to mean otherwise.
Ours are notably picky on who gets access to the confidential info, which
is reassuring :-)
This was a question that came up just today, actually - I was doing a
Special:CheckUser sockpuppet check on an IP. It turned out to be someone
with a username using their IP as a sockpuppet and pretending it was a
different person. I sanity-checked with Tim Starling and he agreed that if
it's relevant, and they're sock-puppeteering (they were), then revealing
the user-IP link is something they can't reasonably object to. I'd say that
if the privacy policy seems to say otherwise, the privacy policy needs
fixing. That's almost certainly a Foundation matter, of course, so I've
cc'ed this to that list.
- d.
Hello,
Are they any participants of the portuguese wikipedia active on that
mailing list ? If so, are you ready to help with a little public
relation activity ? If not, could anyone indicate me a portuguese editor
who would like to be ?
Thanks
Ant
Lee Daniel Crocker a écrit:
> On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 08:53 -0700, Anthere wrote:
>
>
>>We currently have 5 candidates for organisation.
>>I am checking their profile and we will keep you informed as soon as possible of the outcome.
>>But basically, please consider applications closed :-)
>
>
> Seems a bit quick; the first mention of elections on foundation-l (which
> I read via the archives occasionally) was on the 26th; there is no
> mention at all on the foundation website, so this is the first I'd
> heard. I'd love to take a more active role in the future direction of
> the project.
Well, yes, that is quick, but I do not think we need 25 people to help
on organisation of the elections :-(
But right, if more people want to help, they may further contact us.
However, the number of people helping will be limited in the end. Last
year, they were 2. 3 counting Tim. I think this year 5 is a maximum.
But I am not sure what you want to be or do ?
If you want to help organise the elections, consider yourself in. You
have been there for very very long and obviously are very trusted. So,
please join with Tim.
If you want to be a candidate for the board itself, well, great. You can
say so now, but we won't have a candidate page till we have a
organisation team.
ant
