Thanks, Lodewijk, for spreading the word.
Dear all,
Our first experiences with encouraging older people to become active contributors of Wikipedia/Wikimedia suggest that WLM provides a great opportunity to address seniors and to reach out to organizations with an older user base than Wikipedia - e.g. online communities for seniors, local historian associations, etc.
If you're interested in combining WLM with seniors outreach, please let me know. We'll be happy to learn about your approaches and to share our experiences. In some countries we might also be able to provide assistance with contacting seniors organizations.
If you're present in Washington, you're invited to attend our workshop on Saturday, 12:10-13:30, Room 309; if you can't attend, just talk to me in between the workshops or send me an e-mail.
Best regards,
Beat
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From: effeietsanders(a)gmail.com [mailto:effeietsanders@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Lodewijk Gelauff
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Juli 2012 04:17
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
Cc: Estermann Beat
Subject: numbers on senior participation
hi all,
see below, might be interesting. Thanks Beat for sharing and processing!
Lodewijk
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Dear Lodewijk,
I've uploaded our WLM-reports on Wikiversity / the TAO Website:
- Overview of approaches to seniors outreach:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/TAO/Wikimedia_Seniors_Outreach
- Overview of WLM-related seniors outreach in 2011: http://www.thirdageonline.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Wiki-Loves-Monument…
- Report on WLM-related seniors outreach in 2011 in Switzerland: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/TAO/Seniors_Outreach_in_the_context_of_Wiki_…
The Wikiversity page's appearance is still far from perfect. Feel free to make improvements and add things - it's a wiki.
Thanks in advance for circulating the reports among interested circles. If there is any content on the TAO-Website (www.thirdageonline.eu<http://www.thirdageonline.eu>) you would like to include in a CC-licensed wiki, please let me know; this shouldn't be a problem.
Best regards,
Beat
Dear colleges!
Just a technical question.
I would like to include Ukrainian monuments into the toolserver search. For
example, looking for "Жмеринка" (*Żmerynka*) I see this
page<http://owlz.org/oar-browser.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftoolserver.org%2F%7Eerfgoe…>
where I see, that the nearest monuments is in 400+ km somewhere in Poland.
It looks quite offensive (though I love Poland) because we have a lot of
monuments in Żmerynka as it could be seen
here<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%…>.
So the question is - what could I do, for our Żmerynka's list would be
readable for toolserver? Of course the same question will arise soon for
all the others Ukrainian city.
--
Regards, A1
hi all,
see below, might be interesting. Thanks Beat for sharing and processing!
Lodewijk
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Dear Lodewijk,****
** **
I’ve uploaded our WLM-reports on Wikiversity / the TAO Website:****
** **
**- **Overview of approaches to seniors outreach: ****
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/TAO/Wikimedia_Seniors_Outreach****
**- **Overview of WLM-related seniors outreach in 2011:
http://www.thirdageonline.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Wiki-Loves-Monument…
****
**- **Report on WLM-related seniors outreach in 2011 in
Switzerland:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/TAO/Seniors_Outreach_in_the_context_of_Wiki_…
****
** **
The Wikiversity page’s appearance is still far from perfect. Feel free to
make improvements and add things – it’s a wiki.****
Thanks in advance for circulating the reports among interested circles. If
there is any content on the TAO-Website (www.thirdageonline.eu) you would
like to include in a CC-licensed wiki, please let me know; this shouldn’t
be a problem.****
** **
Best regards,****
Beat
Hi dear organizers,
At the moment we count 38 countries participating in almost every
continent! As September is getting closer we will have to make sure that
all relevant data is at hand.
To be able to send You as representative of a participating country a
little parcel with prizes and goodies, such as the paper notebooks from
Lettera27, we need a full post address (Name, institution, street or PO Box
Zip Code town, Country and office ours if so). We would like to know, which
partners You have both as sponsors, media partners or partners that help
you to have the monument lists, or forming the jury, or other assets.
Maybe you could simply add the required data here:
external progress
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Progress
for the delivery of the package:
contact
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Communi…
Anyhow, please make sure, that all information collected on the Commons
page is as up dated as possible by Beginning of August.
Thanks
Barbara
--
Barbara Fischer
Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
Hi all,
please welcome Christopf Jackel from the German WLM team to our mailing
list. He will be supporting the relaunch of the the GErmanWLM site.
thanks barbara
--
Barbara Fischer
Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin
Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
http://wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
There was a very subtle typo earlier
try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_….
As far as dates, I'd guess most American would prefer the month of
July. Folks are on vacation and have the time for recreational
photography. The month is also very symbolic, e.g. Independence Day
in the US, Canada Day in Canada, Bastille Day in France, etc. Also
daylight in the northern hemisphere is near its longest, which can
help in photography (sorry Australia!)
One more American quirk - "Monuments" here means lots of things here -
but is probably most associated with what we've been calling "public
art" - sculptures to famous people. Another use is for "gravestone".
So while most of us probably understand how "registered historic
places" fits in with "Wiki Loves Monuments" it seems just a bit off.
Any chance of getting a new title next July??!
Pete Ekman
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:25:49 +0200
> From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: "Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration \[Public\]"
> <glam(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Public
> Art (WLPA) needs your help
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> Hi,
>
> interesting announcement :) I myself have been thinking of organizing a new
> 'Wiki Loves' in June 2013 (I don't think May is a good month due to the
> exams everywhere - and students will make up a significant part of the
> organizers), probably first in the Netherlands. I am still doubting between
> some 20 different ideas which were shared by several people; ranging from a
> relaunch of the good old 'Wiki Loves Art' (it would be preferable if WLPA
> could get a name that is not as easily confused with WLA) all the way to a
> Wiki Loves Food (photograph food items, dishes etc in your country/region)
> or Wiki Loves Concepts (photograph concepts like 'love', 'community',
> 'neighborhood', 'philosophy' etc as explanatory and useful as possible).
> Wiki Loves Public Art is amongst those ideas too (as are non-photo
> contests), although I should admit personally it is not my favorite :)
>
> So... would it perhaps make sense to do WLPA one or even two months
> earlier? (March/April) That way it would leave three months per year to do
> a contest (but imho running two in a country is already quite a challange!
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
Hi everyone,
I wondered what the best place was to organize a "Wiki Takes ..." event
so I did a query :-)
Picked out some places :
At the top is:
* Edinburgh 4829
Than it's all Flanders:
* Gent/Gand : 4829
* Antwerpen/Anver : 4471
* Brugge/Buges : 4420
(and a lot more cities in Flanders, I'll skip the rest)
Than major European cities start showing up
* Bukarest : 2251
* Bratislava : 2168
* Glasgow : 1846
(and some more from Scotland, I'll skip the rest)
* Tallinn : 1512
* Copenhagen : 1240
* Kraków : 1171
* Brakel: 780 (that's Dutch, but I had to look it up on the map)
* Oslo : 424
* Gotland : 309
* St. Louis, Missouri : 297
The full list is at
http://toolserver.org/~multichill/temp/queries/erfgoed/where_wiki_takes.txt
(and the query at
http://toolserver.org/~multichill/temp/queries/erfgoed/where_wiki_takes.sql
)
This might server as some inspiration to organize your local Wiki Takes!
How to organize such an event is documented at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Organizing_…
.
Maarten
Hi, dear colleagues!
We need some technical help.
I've created a Template *Шаблон:WLM-рядок*
<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD:WLM-%D1%8…>nearly
the same as polish
*Wikiprojekt:Wiki Lubi Zabytki/wykazy/wiersz *and now I have 2 actual
questions for continuing work.
1. How could I transform in automatic mode a list from a standard wiki form
to templated? For example
here<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%…>is
a table where I've templated only first 2 rows but the others have not
yet. Of course whole the list must be templated but doing it by hands is
too dull work.
2. How could I make in automatic mode some more complex transformations in
case if I have a list with more parameters? For example
here<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BC%27%D1%8F%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8_…>
we have 10 parametres, and only 4 of them are needed for WLM-lists and 3
are missing. So this list also need transformation, and also doing it by
hands is too dull work.
The problem is that hundreds of tables need such transformations. For
example only for Vinnica
district<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%…>we
have 27 lists of historical monuments, 28 - architect, 30 -
archaeology,
1 great list - memorials, and additionaly 5 are monuments in cities. All of
them are to be transformed. So I need a script which could perform it.
--
Regards, Andrij
Photographing Public art in the US has some special problems (though
other areas may have their own special problems!)
1. is copyright protection, but see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Public_art_and_copyrights_in_the_…
which is quite helpful
2. is getting a list of what is considered "public art."
The Smithsonian Institution maintains a list of art known as SIRIS and
a sub-list SOS (Save our Sculpture) and it is fairly easy to determine
what is outside. BUT, it can include almost anything that might be
possibly considered sculpture - e.g. 10 little knick-knacks carved on
the front of a small church, or several dozen individual copies of one
commercially sold war memorial. Also good addresses and updated info
can be rare and coordinates are non-existant. In short very messy and
too large.
But please keep in contact with me, or maybe User:Sarah Steirch or
User:Slowking4 about the project and the May photoshoot.
Peter Ekman
User:Smallbones
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:01:26 +0200
> From: Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>
> To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
> <wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Cc: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs
> your help
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> John
> Great initiative! Thanks for the tip, and good point about May vs.
> September regarding WLM, but these can easily be linked together, meaning
> Wiki(p/m)edians can take pictures of statues and other public art whilst
> working from a list of monument numbers...
>
> To be clear, are you going to keep your Public art idea like WLM's, in the
> sense that "only photos with a unique id taken during the competition month
> will be eligible for a prize"? WLM is basically just a Wikimedia Commons
> project, and the fruits of that project can be used by Wikipedia, but there
> is no Wikipedia part of the competition as it is today.
>
> Right off the top of my head I can think of lots of other ways to track
> public art, such as historical artworks commissioned by a governing body
> that once were on Square X and were replaced by artwork Y for reason Z,
> etc. This kind of tracking would require various references and would need
> to be integrated somehow with Wikipedia, I think, as pictures alone don't
> tell the whole story, the way pictures of physical monuments taken for WLM
> do.
>
> In other words, what is your precise, identifiable and verifiable
> definition of "public art", rather than "sculptures, mosaics, mural
> paintings, memorials and place specific installments in the public space"?
> Jane
>
> 2012/7/2 John Andersson <johnandersson86(a)hotmail.com>
>
>> Hallo everybody,
>>
>> We have just started working with the Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA)[1]
>> contest that will focus on getting pictures on sculptures, mosaics, mural
>> paintings, memorials and place specific installments in the public space.
>> If you are interested in public art, enjoy organizing events, think that it
>> is cool and interesting to work with projects that increase cooperation
>> between the Chapters, or would like to work towards GLAM in your country,
>> well then this would be something for you! We are looking for all kinds of
>> volunteers and especially for national coordinators that can help us get
>> things going in the countries and coordinate the volunteer efforts!
>>
>> As we don't want to intrude upon the fantastic Wiki Loves Monument contest
>> we are thinking about holding WLPA during the month of May in 2013.
>> However, May will hopefully give us enough time to work on this and provide
>> good enough weather so that the pictures look nice and people think that it
>> is fun to go out and find the art works.
>>
>> We are of course aware of the tricky copyright legislations in different
>> countries but thanks to the fact that this is organized together with
>> Europeana (www.europeana.eu) we have the possibility to use Europeana's
>> team of judicial experts in finding out answers on some of the questions.
>> So if you have a question that is not answered on Commons:Freedom of
>> Panorama[2] please write up your questions on relevant judicial matters on
>> our list and we will forward it to Europeana.[3]
>>
>> Both me and the project leader, Lennart Guldbrandsson, will be at
>> Wikimania and we would love to met and talk to you about this in person!
>>
>> I hope to hear from you soon!
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> John
>>
>> - - - -
>> *John Andersson*
>> Wikimedia Sweden (WMSE)
>> Event Manager, Europeana Awareness
>>
>> Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
>> Email: JohnAndersson86(a)hotmail.com
>> Skype: johnandersson86