Gerard wrote: Hoi, When the language committee takes the lead and decides one way or the other, it makes a recommendation to the board of trustees. Ultimately the decision is theirs. We do not need to consider that this is a situation where nobody was willing to act. Thanks, GerardM Just for the record, this is disingenuous. This position is only formally true in the case of project creations, and only slightly more realistically true in the case of project closures and deletions. Basically, the Board has delegated these responsibilities to this Committee. (We don't even have to notify the Board officially of project creations any more, only of closures.) Unless the Board actively intervenes, it takes this Committee's action (or inaction) as the official WMF position on a question. Steven Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: Langcom &lt;langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org &lt;langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 5:50 AM To: langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org &lt;langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Langcom Digest, Vol 71, Issue 3 Send Langcom mailing list submissions to langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wik… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to langcom-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at langcom-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Langcom digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Croatian Wikipedia (Ilario Valdelli) 2. Re: Croatian Wikipedia (Gerard Meijssen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 09:40:28 +0000 From: Ilario Valdelli &lt;ivaldelli(a)wikimedia.ch&gt; To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee &lt;langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia Message-ID: &lt;VI1P192MB01579BBB7802B8CEDBA77CB6DDBE0(a)VI1P192MB0157.EURP192.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My 2 cents As I know Serbian uses cyrillic Chars while Croatian use neolatin. Kind regards Get Outlook for Android<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%… ________________________________ From: Langcom &lt;langcom-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; on behalf of James Heilman &lt;jmh649(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 11:06:19 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee &lt;langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia And would it be true that if Croatian was to apply now they would be denied as Serbian already exists? James On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 3:00 AM Ilario Valdelli <ivaldelli@wikimedia.ch<mailto:ivaldelli@wikimedia.ch>> wrote: Speaking with a Serbian of another association, there not a significant difference between the two languages. Kind regards Get Outlook for Android<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%… ________________________________ From: Langcom <langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>> on behalf of James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com<mailto:jmh649@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 9:43:24 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:langcom@lists.wikimedia.org>> Subject: Re: [Langcom] Croatian Wikipedia One question, we have Crotian and Serbo-Croatian... How significant is the difference? J On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 12:43 AM Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il<mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote: The Stewards, indeed, sound like the first people to talk to about this. The Language committee should be about the languages themselves, and not so much about what is said in them. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faharoni.wo… ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 2 בספט׳ 2019 ב-9:34 מאת ‪Gerard Meijssen‬‏ <‪gerard.meijssen@gmail.com<mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>‬‏>:‬ Hoi, We could. However, we are not the best positioned group to do so. The stewards come to mind. The trust and safety committee.. but to be honest the board of trustees is the organisation that indicates the importance of these issues, has a responsibility to us as a movement and it can direct the WMF to do whatever. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 07:25, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com<mailto:jmh649@gmail.com>> wrote: Wondering if this group would be interested in bringing forwards a proposal? 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