* With respect to Western Armenian and Homshetsma, Oliver is entirely correct. By all
means get an RFL in place for Western Armenian. But that is a different issue from
* With respect to "close as stale" vs. "waiting/on hold": I think
there is a misunderstanding here from some people:
* We're not suggesting doing anything to Incubator at all. We're not
deleting test projects there that are stale. (See WP:NOTPAPER.)
* With respect to "Requests for new languages", once a project is
eligible, it is eligible. We're not changing that, either.
* The ONLY thing being suggested is this: Where a "Request for new
languages" was NEVER marked eligible, then if there has not been any follow-up by
fluent speakers (for example, by creating an Incubator test), we will mark the request as
"close as stale".
* Any/all such requests are either marked as "waiting/on hold" or were
never changed from "discussion/open". All of these tests should have been marked
as "waiting/on hold', except that nobody ever got around to doing that. And so in
all the cases I am suggesting, we have waited 7+ years, and native (fluent) speakers never
showed up. So I want to remove those from the request queue, clearly inviting anyone new
to start fresh with a new request.
* I have recently marked a couple of requests like this as eligible, because
speakers did show up.
I hope that clarifies things.
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1. Re: Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:54:47 +0100
From: Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen(a)sil.org>
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the
summer of 2010
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we're aware of the ISO code proposal for Western Armenian. Actually, one
of our committee (Michael Everson) elicited the data at WMCon Berlin
2017 and wrote and submitted the proposal to the ISO committee. However,
that's Western Armenian and not Homshetsma. Hence, I understand it to be
right to reject the current proposal and then to open a new proposal for
all of Western Armenian.
On 22-Jan-18 17:05, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
Sorry I'm late to the conversation, but I did get
a request from the
Armenian Wikimedia community at Wikimania 2016 specifically to assist
with the assignment of an ISO code for Western Armenian. Closing the
proposal may be the right thing to do at this point, but it is a bit
of a chicken and egg issue wrt ISO codes. I believe there is
significant community interest within the Armenian community if we
could break this logjam.
On Jan 22, 2018 6:37 AM, "Steven White" <koala19890(a)hotmail.com
Having heard no comments on the proposals with respect to Egyptian
and Homshetsma over the last seven days, I will close both as
rejected, as described in my original message.
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