I'm non-voting, of course, so I'm not going to offer an opinion, per se. But, Gideon, I keep hearing "in Berlin". Whom did you speak to in Berlin? LangCom people? Board members? If it was board members, then we might actually need some guidance as to what the board was thinking, and as to what they might like us to do about this.
Steven
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I'm non-voting, of course, so I'm not going to offer an opinion, *per se. * But, Gideon, I keep hearing "in Berlin". Whom did you speak to in Berlin? LangCom people? Board members? If it was board members, then we might actually need some guidance as to what the board was thinking, and as to what they might like us to do about this.
I remember speaking to Gnangarra in the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin in April 2017.
I say the same thing to all the people who ask what is needed to create a Wikipedia in a new language: Have a bunch of people who know that language write a lot of articles in that language. Of course I also mention the requirements for ISO code, completion of translatewiki most used messages, and expert approval.
This is oversimplified, but the essence in this case is that I am sure that I didn't say that it's OK to create a project in a new language that will not be written in that language. This would be a self-contradiction. Perhaps somebody else said something like this.
I'll write my longer opinion about the case in a separate email.
I was also in Berlin, and remember speaking to Gnangarra there. I agree with Amir. I did not realize that what was being suggested was not an encyclopaedia written in the target language.
Michael Everson
On 12 Feb 2018, at 13:19, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I remember speaking to Gnangarra in the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin in April 2017.
I say the same thing to all the people who ask what is needed to create a Wikipedia in a new language: Have a bunch of people who know that language write a lot of articles in that language. Of course I also mention the requirements for ISO code, completion of translatewiki most used messages, and expert approval.
This is oversimplified, but the essence in this case is that I am sure that I didn't say that it's OK to create a project in a new language that will not be written in that language. This would be a self-contradiction. Perhaps somebody else said something like this.
And another one who talked to Gnangarra in Berlin: I remember that I explicitly said that the current standard is to write a new language's WMF project in that language. I had realized that nys:wp was written predominantly in English. I don't think that I encouraged any interpretation that nys:wp could be written in English but I also remember that I had some communication problems due to our rather different versions of spoken English.
Fwiw, Oliver
On 12-Feb-18 15:32, Michael Everson wrote:
I was also in Berlin, and remember speaking to Gnangarra there. I agree with Amir. I did not realize that what was being suggested was not an encyclopaedia written in the target language.
Michael Everson
On 12 Feb 2018, at 13:19, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I remember speaking to Gnangarra in the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin in April 2017.
I say the same thing to all the people who ask what is needed to create a Wikipedia in a new language: Have a bunch of people who know that language write a lot of articles in that language. Of course I also mention the requirements for ISO code, completion of translatewiki most used messages, and expert approval.
This is oversimplified, but the essence in this case is that I am sure that I didn't say that it's OK to create a project in a new language that will not be written in that language. This would be a self-contradiction. Perhaps somebody else said something like this.
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