In Iran schools and universities beside some foreign languages are not allowed to teach languages other than Persian, so there is no nothing as official resource, what do you expect from me? If there is no approval please let users know to stop contributing.
On 4/28/2015 1:04 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, Reading an article does not make us an expert. Thanks, GerardM
On 27 April 2015 at 15:17, Mjbmr <mjbmri@gmail.com mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the article I found titled "Update on Luri: How many languages?" by Erik John Anonby: original link <http://anonby.balafon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jra-172-171-197.pdf>, you can see on the figure #2, said "Luri-Lurestani-khorramabadi" is the main dialect and "Luri-Borujerdi" is the other dialect of Northern Luri (lrc), and on the figure #3 shown west of current Iran's map, said "Lurestani" is the main area of Northern Luri (lrc), lower on these dialects is "Laki" on the figure #2 sands for Laki language (lki) , and "Laki" area on the figure #3. On the figure #2 upper of Northern Luri (lrc) dialects you can see the "Bakhtiari" (bqi) dialects and "Kohkiloyeh" and "Bouyerahmad" (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages #186 to #197 you can compares the example differences between these languages. On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:As I mentioned also concerning Western Balochi, we need an outside scholar / linguist / language expert for verification purposes. Any useful bona-fide contacts? On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:This <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1> is the list of top articles was provided by Mogoeilor, even he named the language of this wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page, and I didn't see that. On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:Yes. On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:Hoi, A longstanding requirement for any and all languages is that they have to have an ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language not a macro language. Thanks, GerardM On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr <mjbmri@gmail.com <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote: There is no such thing as they are a resources of world's languages, people are the resources and they only maintainer code, the unified codes that the world uses. Is there any confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet? On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:Hoi, Ethnologue is the maintainer of the ISO-639-3. As such they are an authority. Thanks, GerardM On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr <mjbmri@gmail.com <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote: You're right, I can't trust a self verification too, but what do you expect me do to?, you can probably find a lot of trustable resources on the Internet, I my self can't even trust ethnologue, because I found unuseful information on it and I don't know where they come from, at least in Wikipedia, we have resources, I didn't expect that from you. On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:> Hoi, > Wikipedia is in this not an authority. It has never > been. Again, self certification does not work for > me.. We have been hurt by that before. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr <mjbmri@gmail.com > mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com> wrote: > > Alright then, that's Northern Luri, fair enough, > I didn't have any knowledge that there is a > southern dialect of it and people of Kohgiluyeh > and Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak that, I only > knew Lorestan, but per English wikipedia, > they're dialects of Northern Luri which this > wiki is written in. > > > On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >> Hoi, >> Check this out ... >> http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0 >> >> It rather complicates things... By the way self >> certification is not a good idea. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On 24 April 2015 at 22:45, Mjbmr >> <mjbmri@gmail.com mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes. 100%, as I live Iran and I know some >> parts of this language, it is definitely >> Luri. Mohammad Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor) the >> most active user of this project is from >> Lorestan so definitely he speaks in this >> language every day. In Iran it's called >> Luri, some people call it Lurish >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish >> as the translation for English, per this >> http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc >> the language should be called Northern >> Luri, but none of it dialects are called >> Luri, so I call it Luri too. I have also >> submitted and now accepted a ticket to CLDR >> to support this language. Other proposal of >> dialects of this language like Bakhtiari >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari >> failed because of being a part of this >> language. Also they list of article I've >> just provided are the best of them as you >> can see there are no Persian words in them. >> >> >> On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: >>> Hoi, >>> Do we have confirmation that it is indeed >>> Luri ? >>> Thanks, >>> Gerard >>> >>> On 24 April 2015 at 20:42, Mjbmr >>> <mjbmri@gmail.com >>> mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I ask langcom members for approval of >>> Luri Wikipedia, >>> >>> here are some top articles I could >>> list, but there are more of them >>> >>> 1. استیو جابز >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2 >>> (Steve Jobs) >>> 2. آلورت انیشتین >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86 >>> (Albert Einstein) >>> 3. کلمبیا >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7 >>> (Colombia) >>> 4. شهید چمران >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86 >>> (Mostafa Chamran) >>> 5. شایا عیلامی >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C >>> (List of rulers of Elam) >>> 6. کارلوس فوئنتس >>> http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3 >>> (Carlos Fuentes) >>> >>> >>> Analysis >>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors >>> shows that this project has enough >>> users and most of mediawiki message >>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrchas >>> been translated. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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