Hello Amir - So when do you move a Wikipedia from the Incubator to the Wikipedia.org site? What milestone needs to be met to have that happen?
Val ;-)
Valerie Sutton sutton@signwriting.org
On May 31, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
I say the same the thing to all the people who write in all the Incubators: Write more articles in the Incubator in your language. That's the single most important thing.
If there is any technical issue that prevents you from writing or reading articles, I'd love to hear details about them.
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2016-05-25 11:03 GMT-07:00 Valerie Sutton <sutton@signwriting.org mailto:sutton@signwriting.org>: Hello Everyone - Thank you for this attention to the ASL Wikipedia. I am not a software developer myself. I just see Deaf ASL writers posting articles in the ASL Wikipedia on Incubator, so from my perspective it seems to be working...
I notice that Gerard mentioned that there may be some technical issues that "do not come to light" in the incubator... If this is true, then maybe we can work on those issues right now.
What is needed from us to improve the ASL Wikipedia?
Val ;-)
On May 25, 2016, at 10:38 AM, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com mailto:mfwarburg@googlemail.com> wrote:
2016-05-24 17:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>: Hoi, It takes a font that is available from the MediaWiki software. I know that ASL does not fulfill our formal requirements but the flipside is that there are many technical issues that do not come to light in the Incubator.
Do you mean that ASL in Incubator has technical problems which would be solved by moving to a subdomain? The opposite was said by Valerie: "Meanwhile, we already have functioning Sign Language Wikipedias on the Wikimedia Incubator, without Unicode, and we can type the edits directly on the web in full correctly-written SignWriting, and we have all the layout issue solved and we are reading in vertical columns...all this without Unicode." etc. "I predict that articles will continue to be written in the Incubator and that is wonderful!"
The purpose of having a Wikipedia in ASL is that we will learn how to do a top down oriented language. It is a first. What it also does is give a ton of positive attention to both Wikipedia and the use of Sign Writing. So as I have indicated, the formal requirements are in this a hindrance. With ASL live, we will gain the technical issues clear. We will find that more people will start writing ASL and focus it on Wikipedia.
With this argumentation, we could approve just anything because it will give positive attention to language XY. No thanks.
All reasons why we should. Thanks, GerardM
On 24 May 2016 at 15:16, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com mailto:mfwarburg@googlemail.com>wrote: I take it you didn't read my mail.
Am 24.05.2016 14:23 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>: Hoi, I take it that there are no objections and I intent to move forward. Thanks, GerardM
On 15 May 2016 at 08:47, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote: Hoi, Have a look at this [1]. It clearly shows that a lot of work needs to be done to get MediaWiki right for sign languages with SignWriting.
I propose that we let ASL be a Wikipedia It enables all the work that needs doing to make it work properly. It deserves it imho as well. Thanks, GerardM
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