I support Oliver's suggestion.
I don't know what conflict is Miloš referring to when he's saying "Because of our conflict, you are ready to punish unrelated people". If it was mentioned in other emails, then sorry, I didn't have time to read every single one of them, so I don't know why and when did it start. But my gut feeling is that Miloš's repeated escalation is completely unnecessary and wrong.
I appreciate Miloš's erudition and relevant knowledge, but his repeated baseless personal attacks have to stop.
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2017-12-11 16:40 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen oliver_stegen@sil.org:
If we cannot agree on committee etiquette, i.e. rules about interaction which respects human dignity, we will not succeed in setting up rules about anything else either.
I propose the following rule:
- No flaming! (i.e. no ad hominem attacks, and no profanity)
- Perpetrators who repeat the offense after being reprimanded will be
blocked for one month.
Feel free to discuss, add and/or amend. I still think we have to start somewhere to get our interaction to an acceptable level again. There are some widely agreed-upon netiquette standards out there (e.g. [1]-[3]; the slide inserted below is from [4]). I would have hoped that we don't need such rules but frequent flare-ups over the years have finally convinced me otherwise.
I herewith *ask for votes on my proposed rule* within the usual 7-day deadline. Should discussion lead to additions or amendments (like including more detailed rules from the examples I listed below), the deadline will be postponed accordingly.
Fwiw, Oliver
[1] https://lifehacker.com/5473859/basic-etiquette-for- email-lists-and-forums [2] http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/7-netiquette-guidelines- writing-emails-forum-posts/ (esp. no.7) [3] https://www.simplehelp.net/2006/08/14/how-to-be-polite- while-youre-online-practicing-good-netiquette/ [4] http://images.slideplayer.com/47/11762279/slides/slide_3.jpg
On 11-Dec-17 12:21, Milos Rancic wrote:
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Oliver Stegen oliver_stegen@sil.org oliver_stegen@sil.org wrote:
I support Michael's call to stop offensive rants. And to be precise: Miloš, I perceive your posts and attitude to be highly disruptive (and that is not just my personal opinion but based on the standards of committee etiquette of several other non-profit organisations I'm familiar with) - it is impossible to work together in the face of such accusations and language. Please change and interact with us in a civil way. If you cannot do that, I support Michael's suggestion to reconsider your participation here.
I see this kind of emails useless. I've already said I will do the same whenever provoked and I've already said what you should do to "reconsider" my position here.
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