On Apr 4, 2017, at 5:11 AM, Michael Everson
<everson(a)evertype.com> wrote:
Here are some of my observations:
1) As the biography tag notes, the article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehmat_Aziz_Chitrali reads like a résumé. It has a lot of
red links to his “notable works”. Check out the other languages it’s available in. A stub
in Azerbaijani, Scots, Swedish, Fijian Hindi, and Waray; I didn’t check the links in
Arabic script. He hotlinks Associate Fellowship to Honorary Degree and those things aren’t
the same.
2) The Khowar Academy page links the Academy’s home page to
sites.google.com which isn’t
very home-pagey. I mean, there’s no contact information for the Academy. It publishes
books by RAC, so it says, on Scribd.
3) The Khowar Language page gives a sample of a poem and makes sure to note the
translator’s name and link to his article. It lists TV channels. I don’t know what
languages they broadcast in. Khowar?
4) The Khowar Alphabet page… is not reliable. Once again it produces RAC’s translation of
a verse of poetry, naming the translatr. It also reproduces an alphabet chart by him with
58 letters. It is poorly produced, attributed to RAC, and seems to map to the Wikitable
list in the article. The article points to a (verified) Unicode proposal
http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2006/06149-bashir-prop.pdf to add 4 characters for Knowar, NONE
OF WHICH APPEAR in this article OR in the alphabet list at the top of the Khowar
Wikipedia.
Look, I’ve been accused of “coflict of interest” about the Wiki article about me. I
wouldn’t criticize RAC out of spite. (My page is really out of date in terms of Evertype’s
publishing activities which *are* notable in a multilingual sense.) But nothing in these
four pages gives me confidence that there is a community of editors working on a Khowar
Wikipedia.
My recommendation is that LangCom tell him that his project will be dormant until we have
confidence that 10 verifiable users are working on it. That’s a larger number than we
normally give, but then it looks like there has been cheating going on. Even if there
hasn’t been, the look is enough. RAC should work with Wikimedia Pakistan to get a grant to
do a Translatathon or whatever they’re called, and get a real community going. But
linguistically, I want to know why he’s not using the Unicode letters added specifically
for Khowar.
That’s my view.
Michael Everson
On 4 Apr 2017, at 06:17, Satdeep Gill
<satdeepgill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Read the email from Rehmat Aziz Chitrali
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation
Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
Treasurer, Affiliations Committee
Member, Language Committee
Begin forwarded message:
From: Rehmat Aziz Chitrali
<rachitrali(a)yahoo.com>
Date: 4 April 2017 at 3:28:28 AM GMT+2
To: "satdeepgill(a)gmail.com" <satdeepgill(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Khowar Wikipedia
Reply-To: Rehmat Aziz Chitrali <rachitrali(a)yahoo.com>
Respected sir, as you know that I am test admin and tirelessly working since 2008 for
creating wikipedia in khowar, i have contributed more than 7000 edits in this project, i
have translated most used interface msgs for this project. We are using Internet cafe to
write articles for this project, if somebody is also using the same IP and contributing in
khowar wiki project, then this is not my fault. On the basis of one IP address one project
can not be declined after its approval, this is not fair, this is discrimination with the
khowar community. The langcom to check these things before approval and before Phabricator
task, we have already received many congratulations messeges for the approval of this
project. This is embarrassing for the community. After approval we have issued to press
release. I request you all to restore the phabricator task to its original position
subject to the condition that the khowar community contribute more articles in khowar
language within one month and complete the task, I assure you sir, trust me and give one
month time to engage more regular contributors to complete the task. Your kind cooperation
will be highly be appreciated. Please restore the Phabricator Task to its original
position subject to condition that the Khowar Community shall contribute more ariticles
and complete the task within one month Sharp. cheers and Regards
With Profound Regards
Rehmat Aziz Chitrali
Test Admin @KhowarWikipeid Incubator project
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