Hello Jon and Tochi,
Thank you both for your valuable advice and information. I think that they will be very happy now that they have a landing page https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ddn (I think that they thought that they needed an approval to have it). But I will share with them that now is just the time to edit, translate and create, so that we see hopefully the results of their efforts in a near future!
Best regards,
Anass
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 1:59 PM Tochi Precious tochiprecious2@gmail.com wrote:
From my experience, I think something that might be useful to them in the beginning is:
- Have at least 6 to 10 people constantly contributing to the project.
(Keep it active)
- Aim to keep it active at least for a period of 6 months
- Create upto 300 articles within this period.
- Someone very savvy in the language can become an admin to clean up
the mess that would be made.
- Use Translatewiki to localize the Main Page.
This is what I usually advise.
Tochi
On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 10:14 AM Jon Harald Søby jhsoby@gmail.com wrote:
The request pages in their current form are a little bit outdated in my opinion, a relic from a time where votes (or !votes) for new editions were given much more weight. Nowadays they are mainly used to ascertain eligibility according to the language proposal policy, but the most important thing is to start the test wiki on the Incubator and maintain an active community there. There have been cases where a test wiki was active and even getting ready to be approved before the request page was actually made, and it wasn't really a problem.
I would like to actually move the whole process (with the LPP and the request pages) from Meta to the Incubator. Currently there are two places where things are done; a very small part, i.e. the request page, is done on Meta, while the most important part (creating the test wiki and building a community) is done on the Incubator. I think it makes more sense to have everything in the Incubator, but I haven't written up a detailed proposal for that yet. I can hopefully get that done soon, but can't promise any exact timeline.
But yeah, to answer the main question for Dendi: I just created the outline page for it at https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ddn , and they can start from there. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of "help" for what is needed at the very beginning (that is also something I would like to do something about), so it is good if they already have some experience from other language projects or at least have some help from experienced Wikimedians.
I also marked the request page you linked to as eligible.
man. 3. apr. 2023 kl. 10:53 skrev Anass Sedrati sedranas@gmail.com:
Hello Colleagues,
I was contracted today by Wikimedians who want to start an incubator version in Dendi (a language spoken in Benin by ~500.000 people, iso code: ddn). They explained to me that they created this request page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Dendi, but my understanding is that the mentioned page is a request to create a "full" Wikipedia, and not to have an incubator page. Is this a correct understanding?
To start their incubator, they just need to be bold and create a main Wp/ddn page https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wp/ddn/Main_Page&action=edit&redlink=1 and start working there. Is that also the correct procedure that I need to explain to them?
Thank you colleagues for your clarifications. I wish you a great start of your week and look forward to meeting you tomorrow!
Best regards,
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