Mark Williamson schreef:
Hello,
Perhaps some of you are aware of the formation of the Langcom.
Also, you may be aware of the recent reform of the language proposal process.
However, what you may not be aware of is that the Language Committee is taking a while to actually get underway and to the point where they can excersise control over the creation of new Wikis.
Despite that, it seems that they are already looked to as an authority in this area, while they do not act as such.
There are several new Wikipedia requests which were uncontroversial when first posed. Many of dozens of voices of support, and have thriving tests on the Incubator.
However, their requests were deleted by PathosChild who said that they would have to remake them, which they have. So far, no proposals for Wikipedias in new languages have been _approved_ under the new proposal process, despite its having been around for several months now. They just sit there. And sit there. And sit there some more.
I think it's about time something happened. I think it's about time we welcomed these people -- the Kabyles, the Latgalians, the Lower Sorbians, the Crimeans, and all the others -- into our Wikipedia family. They have waited long enough. Why can't somebody do something? Why do they have to wait for the langcom to get underway? For all we know, that could take years.
Mark
Hoi, The language committee has proposed things. It does not have the power to force issues. We are now at the stage where we have published our guidelines. We have given warning that we do adopt these guidelines as a rule if there was no indication of opposition to this. This has not happened. From our POV the rules as we published them apply.
All projects for a new language that do not have a work in progress in the Incubator are denied. Starting in the Incubator is mandatory. Working on the localisation is a strong factor in favour for granting a new language a project.
We have some questions outstanding with the board; particularly about the Belarus Wikipedia. In our opinion only the official Belarus Wikipedia has the right to the be.wikipedia label. We have asked at least a month ago for a resolution of this issue from the board. We do not want to take up new things that much if open things do not get resolved. It is a waste of our time otherwise.
We have already denied one proposal for an artificial languages that has no wide support. That one was obvious.
*The wls project has no reasonable amount of support at the moment, there are only 29,768 people speaking it .. Is this a reasonable proposal ? *The twd project has no reasonable amount of support at the moment, there is not even an estimation how many people are speaking it .. Is this a reasonable proposal ? *The stq project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the localisation of the messages *The pfl project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the localisation of the messages. There are insufficient articles of a sufficient length. *The lld project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the localisation of the messages. There are insufficient articles of a sufficient length. *The kok project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the localisation of the messages. There are no articles *The kab project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the localisation of the messages.
So basically from our point of view, it seems that the message files are not there. They are required.
Thanks, GerardM