Mark Williamson schreef:
Hello,
Perhaps some of you are aware of the formation of the Langcom.
Also, you may be aware of the recent reform of the language proposal process.
However, what you may not be aware of is that the Language Committee
is taking a while to actually get underway and to the point where they
can excersise control over the creation of new Wikis.
Despite that, it seems that they are already looked to as an authority
in this area, while they do not act as such.
There are several new Wikipedia requests which were uncontroversial
when first posed. Many of dozens of voices of support, and have
thriving tests on the Incubator.
However, their requests were deleted by PathosChild who said that they
would have to remake them, which they have. So far, no proposals for
Wikipedias in new languages have been _approved_ under the new
proposal process, despite its having been around for several months
now. They just sit there. And sit there. And sit there some more.
I think it's about time something happened. I think it's about time we
welcomed these people -- the Kabyles, the Latgalians, the Lower
Sorbians, the Crimeans, and all the others -- into our Wikipedia
family. They have waited long enough. Why can't somebody do something?
Why do they have to wait for the langcom to get underway? For all we
know, that could take years.
Mark
Hoi,
The language committee has proposed things. It does not have the power
to force issues. We are now at the stage where we have published our
guidelines. We have given warning that we do adopt these guidelines as a
rule if there was no indication of opposition to this. This has not
happened. From our POV the rules as we published them apply.
All projects for a new language that do not have a work in progress in
the Incubator are denied. Starting in the Incubator is mandatory.
Working on the localisation is a strong factor in favour for granting a
new language a project.
We have some questions outstanding with the board; particularly about
the Belarus Wikipedia. In our opinion only the official Belarus
Wikipedia has the right to the be.wikipedia label. We have asked at
least a month ago for a resolution of this issue from the board. We do
not want to take up new things that much if open things do not get
resolved. It is a waste of our time otherwise.
We have already denied one proposal for an artificial languages that has
no wide support. That one was obvious.
*The wls project has no reasonable amount of support at the moment,
there are only 29,768 people speaking it .. Is this a reasonable proposal ?
*The twd project has no reasonable amount of support at the moment,
there is not even an estimation how many people are speaking it .. Is
this a reasonable proposal ?
*The stq project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the
localisation of the messages
*The pfl project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the
localisation of the messages. There are insufficient articles of a
sufficient length.
*The lld project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the
localisation of the messages. There are insufficient articles of a
sufficient length.
*The kok project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the
localisation of the messages. There are no articles
*The kab project does not have a message file.. so we cannot assess the
localisation of the messages.
So basically from our point of view, it seems that the message files are
not there. They are required.
Thanks,
GerardM