James,
After reading your reply to Craig, it is important for me to make sure that
members of the Wiki-EDU community are part of the discussion of exploring
other tools.
This affects all of our work and some of us have put hours and hours of
volunteer work into working with it and developing teaching practices with
it.
While this tool has never been perfect, it's all we have. And while for you
this issue might be just another technical glitch that needs fixing, for
me, and for other educators, it's our wiki (and academic) life.
It matters and we care.
Since we are the ones with the practical experience working with the
extension thus far, and know best what's working well, what's not, what's
missing, etc., I believe it would be beneficial for all parties to make
sure this experience does not go into waste.
I understand the complexity of working on something like this with too many
a people.
*So may I suggest a task force with reps. from the education team as well
as volunteers with hands-on experience? *
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to step on any toes here; just want to
make sure the community's interests are part of the discussion and
decisions that affect our day-to-day are not taken without considering us.
Sincerely,
Shani.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:04 AM, James Alexander <jalexander(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hey Craig,
We're hoping to get the stop-gap in place within the week. Longer term...
it's difficult to say. It's deep enough that we're not entirely sure we can
'fix' the extension but will look into that in addition to other options
and other tools.
James Alexander
Manager
Trust & Safety
Wikimedia Foundation
(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Craig Franklin <
craig.franklin(a)wikimedia.org.au> wrote:
Hi Floor,
Is there any ETA on when we can expect this remedial work to be completed?
Regards,
Craig Franklin
2015-09-29 8:09 GMT+10:00 Floor Koudijs <fkoudijs(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
Dear Filip,
I am so very sorry to hear about these frustrations with the deployment
of the Education Extension. The problem is that there have been recent
security issues with the extension. Engineering and our Trust & Safety
department are working on some stop gaps to allow the extension to remain
in place (and likely be deployed) while we determine what to do with the
recent security issues.
Please rest assured that we are working hard both on keeping the
Education Extension going, and on thinking about a better tool to replace
it for the future.
Feel free to follow up if you have any further questions. I've cc-ed
James Alexander here.
Best,
Floor Koudijs
Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
Wikimedia Foundation
+1.415.839.6885 x6806 (landline)
+1.415.692.5289 (cell phone)
fkoudijs(a)wikimedia.org
education.wikimedia.org
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Filip Maljkovic <dungodung(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello everyone,
Recently, a security issue has been found with Education extension. As
a result, new requests for installing the extension on Wikimedia wikis are
being "stalled", i.e. blocked for an indeterminate period. Can someone from
the Foundation comment on this? I don't see why we shouldn't install the
extension to more wikis, if the current installations are still working
as-is (i.e. they're not being uninstalled because of the security issue, as
far as I know).
While it might be a long shot, is it possible to influence this
decision somehow?
I feel thoroughly disappointed, having held community discussion and
vote, and then waiting for a month (!) for no apparent reason, just to be
outright told that it's unlikely to happen anytime soon. [1]
[1]
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110619
Cheers,
Filip Maljković
Wikimedia Serbia
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