James,

After reading your reply to Craig, it is important for me to make sure that members of the Wiki-EDU community are part of the discussion of exploring other tools.

This affects all of our work and some of us have put hours and hours of volunteer work into working with it and developing teaching practices with it.

While this tool has never been perfect, it's all we have. And while for you this issue might be just another technical glitch that needs fixing, for me, and for other educators, it's our wiki (and academic) life.

It matters and we care.

Since we are the ones with the practical experience working with the extension thus far, and know best what's working well, what's not, what's missing, etc., I believe it would be beneficial for all parties to make sure this experience does not go into waste.

I understand the complexity of working on something like this with too many a people.

So may I suggest a task force with reps. from the education team as well as volunteers with hands-on experience?

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to step on any toes here; just want to make sure the community's interests are part of the discussion and decisions that affect our day-to-day are not taken without considering us.

Sincerely,

Shani.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:04 AM, James Alexander <jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hey Craig,

We're hoping to get the stop-gap in place within the week. Longer term... it's difficult to say. It's deep enough that we're not entirely sure we can 'fix' the extension but will look into that in addition to other options and other tools.

James Alexander
Manager
Trust & Safety

Wikimedia Foundation

(415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Craig Franklin <craig.franklin@wikimedia.org.au> wrote:
Hi Floor,

Is there any ETA on when we can expect this remedial work to be completed?

Regards,
Craig Franklin

2015-09-29 8:09 GMT+10:00 Floor Koudijs <fkoudijs@wikimedia.org>:
Dear Filip,

I am so very sorry to hear about these frustrations with the deployment of the Education Extension. The problem is that there have been recent security issues with the extension. Engineering and our Trust & Safety department are working on some stop gaps to allow the extension to remain in place (and likely be deployed) while we determine what to do with the recent security issues.

Please rest assured that we are working hard both on keeping the Education Extension going, and on thinking about a better tool to replace it for the future.

Feel free to follow up if you have any further questions. I've cc-ed James Alexander here.

Best,

Floor Koudijs
Senior Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
Wikimedia Foundation
+1.415.839.6885 x6806 (landline)
+1.415.692.5289 (cell phone)
fkoudijs@wikimedia.org
education.wikimedia.org

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Filip Maljkovic <dungodung@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Recently, a security issue has been found with Education extension. As a result, new requests for installing the extension on Wikimedia wikis are being "stalled", i.e. blocked for an indeterminate period. Can someone from the Foundation comment on this? I don't see why we shouldn't install the extension to more wikis, if the current installations are still working as-is (i.e. they're not being uninstalled because of the security issue, as far as I know).

While it might be a long shot, is it possible to influence this decision somehow?

I feel thoroughly disappointed, having held community discussion and vote, and then waiting for a month (!) for no apparent reason, just to be outright told that it's unlikely to happen anytime soon. [1]

[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110619

Cheers,
Filip Maljković
Wikimedia Serbia

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