Hello.
On the german Wiktionary, we have discussed about the case sensitivity for our Wiktionary and the purpose was voted pro.
I asked TimStarling if it would be possible to convert then the de: Wiktionary to case-sensitivity, that means to turn the automatic capitalisation off. He said, he wouldn't do that for only one Wiktionary, but for all at a time.
So I went here to ask you, what you would think about an case sensitivity for _all_ Wiktionaries. Sure, there would be a huge of broken links, but as the Wikis are still little and only have a few articles, it is not a big problem to repair this. Except the en: Wiktionary, of course, as a special case, who would need long to be converted/ to repair the broken links.
Why all this: Most of latin languages have most words with lowercase letters (ex.: german, french, english, ....). In the Wikipedia, it is not a big problem to have only uppercase letters. But in a dictionary, it's very important to have and to see a / the difference between upper- and lowercase words.
What do you think about that idea? Should it be voted on all the local Wiktionaries or only discussed here? Which shouldn't be converted?
Sincerly yours, Ronny Raschkowan [[u:Fire]]
On Sat, 29 May 2004 15:56:52 +0200, Ronny Raschkowan wiki@kopfrechnung.de wrote:
Why all this: Most of latin languages have most words with lowercase letters (ex.: german, french, english, ....). In the Wikipedia, it is not a big problem to have only uppercase letters. But in a dictionary, it's very important to have and to see a / the difference between upper- and lowercase words.
In the en:Wiktionary, the casing of a word is shown inline in the page, on a line above the definitions that also shows grammatical information on a word, such as its gender or principal parts:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Malaysia http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Harangue http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Magicus
I think also that having separately-cased forms of words on different pages might overemphasize the difference between some senses of a word, where some may be capitalized and some not:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cynosure
Basically I disagree with case-sensitivity in page titles because I think it is better for the title of an article to be in title case. On the en:Wiktionary we go out of our way to capitalize page titles, and use redirects for languages the wiki software isn't smart enough to capitalize automatically... if this case-sensitivity is enabled it will be a lot more work.
The only exception I could see is words like "isiZulu" where the proper title casing is not the initial character of the word.
--Muke Tever, [[en:User:Muke]]
Ronny Raschkowan wrote:
I asked TimStarling if it would be possible to convert then the de: Wiktionary to case-sensitivity, that means to turn the automatic capitalisation off.
Are we talking about full case-sensitivity (User:Aa being a different account that User:aa; special:recentchanges not found, etc) or simply about case-preservation in titles?
Would the change mean that the already existing articles stay capitalised, or would they be converted to lower case? Would the existing links be converted as well?
What do you think about that idea? Should it be voted on all the local Wiktionaries or only discussed here? Which shouldn't be converted?
At this moment there's enough confusion with 1.3 intruduction and fixing; perhaps we should wait with the case-sensitivity issue until the new interface problems are resolved and there's time to deal with the situations the new case treatment might cause?
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