Muke Tever wrote:
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:04:32 +0100, Gerard Meijssen gerardm@myrealbox.com wrote:
Hoi, Yannf has added a category "language" to the categories that hold the words in a language. This gives you one list with all lists of words in a particular language.
What, like our Latin [[Category:Linguae]] ? ;) http://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Linguae
(I realize I digress entirely with this next section here:)
A lot of Latin categories belong to other categories. It keeps them all in order. For example you can start at the list of names of animals in the family "Canidae": http://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Canidae
and it is categorized under the order "Carnivora", which is categorized under the class "Mammalia", which is under the phylum "Chordata", etc., the whole tree under a taxonomy category. I think it is a better system than other wiktionaries use. Instead of being broad in domain but narrow in coverage (like en:'s "English mammals" or fr:'s "Lexique en français des animaux") it goes for narrow in domain but broad in coverage: entries are categorized by family, but contain words in all languages, which I think is a more useful kind of collection...
It does have the drawback of requiring many more categories, though: currently with 682 words we have 213 categories, which is even more categories than en: has! ;)
*Muke!
There is similarity between the Latin list and what Yann has achieved, there is a difference as well. The category is only used in the category that indicates that a word is in a particular lanuguage. This category is added as part of the template that indicates that a word is in that language.
Yann, has improved the standard that several wiktionaries share. The Latin list is valuable and therefore I have created interlanguage links to the equivalents in other wiktionaries. To make communication between the wiktionaries easier, I also try to find where "the bar", "the kroeg" or however it is called in a wiktionary and create a link to it. The [[nl:WikiWoordenboek:De kroeg]] refers to: [[de:Wiktionary:Ich brauche Hilfe]] [[en:Wiktionary:Beer parlour]] [[fr:Wiktionnaire:Wikidémie]] [[hi:विकिपीडिया:गाँव का पम्प]] [[it:Wikizionario:Bar]] [[ja:Wiktionary:居酒屋]] [[la:O]] [[sv:Wiktionary:Bybrunnen]] [[zh:Wiktionary:啤酒馆]]
I would be happy to extend this list :)
As to categories, personally I often fine them more a nuisance than a help. I have found that barbed wire was put into the category "building material" which to me is silly. It is by exception that I think that a category really adds value. One use in a wiktionary context is to indicate that a word/phrase belongs to a particular glossary that is incorporated in the wiktionary.