Muke Tever wrote: There is similarity between the Latin list and what Yann has achieved, there is a difference as well. The category is only used in the category that indicates that a word is in a particular lanuguage. This category is added as part of the template that indicates that a word is in that language. Yann, has improved the standard that several wiktionaries share. The Latin list is valuable and therefore I have created interlanguage links to the equivalents in other wiktionaries. To make communication between the wiktionaries easier, I also try to find where "the bar", "the kroeg" or however it is called in a wiktionary and create a link to it. The [[nl:WikiWoordenboek:De kroeg]] refers to: [[de:Wiktionary:Ich brauche Hilfe]] [[en:Wiktionary:Beer parlour]] [[fr:Wiktionnaire:Wikidémie]] [[hi:विकिपीडिया:गाँव का पम्प]] [[it:Wikizionario:Bar]] [[ja:Wiktionary:居酒屋]] [[la:O]] [[sv:Wiktionary:Bybrunnen]] [[zh:Wiktionary:啤酒馆]] I would be happy to extend this list :) As to categories, personally I often fine them more a nuisance than a help. I have found that barbed wire was put into the category "building material" which to me is silly. It is by exception that I think that a category really adds value. One use in a wiktionary context is to indicate that a word/phrase belongs to a particular glossary that is incorporated in the wiktionary.

Gerard Meijssen wrote: [[pl:Wikis%C5%82ownik:Bar]] -- tsca * Tomasz Sienicki

Ray Saintonge wrote: Ray, You do miss the point why the use of templates like {{-en-}} is usefull. They help to make data portable between different wiktionaries. The data of the English wiktionary is very hard to use as there is a reluctance to understand and accept innovations like these templates for what they are; a way of increasing cooperation. A list of all words in a lanuage is of a relative merit except for the fact that it was created to have a list with all words in a language that can exceed the 500 entries limit that exists when you ask for the usage of a particular lemma. It has added benefits as this list is in alphabetical order. These categories for words in a language were requested by a user from the ENGLISH wiktionary by the way. On previous occations I have explained that the use of templates like {{-en-}} is not for a lexicological reason. They are there for a technical reason. it allows for the easy transfer of data as mentioned earlier and it has different content than just a definition of a term on the nl:wiktionary, in other wiktionaries it points to a definition on wikipedia, to the wiktionary definition or not at all. That is up to the local wiktionary. This is what the use of the templates allows for. There is only efficient use of "==Spanish==" if you are not interested in looking further than the English wiktionary. That is in my view a bit short sighted given the current amount of active wiktionaries and the need for quality content in all of them. Thanks, Gerard