Andreas Kasenides wrote: <snip> <snip> I commited a patch into cvs. -- Ashar Voultoiz

Andreas Kasenides wrote: You should probably give us more information on how Greek month names work. You have only told us what does *not* work. I might be able to come up with a technical solution if you explain to me what morphological properties of Greek need to be satisfied in the month names. Greetings, Timwi

Delirium wrote: [... etc. ... 'Maios' vs. '5h Maiou'] Ah-ha. I kind of thought so. So why don't you just do this: - Set the month name to "Maio" - In a sentence like "{{MONTHNAME}} is nice", write "{{MONTHNAME}}s estis bioutiphulos" - Set the date format to "{{DAY}} {{MONTHNAME}}u {{YEAR}}" Timwi

Delirium wrote: OK. Next idea: (1) Set the month names to be the possessive forms, e.g. "Iouníou", so they can be used normally in dates throughout the site. (2) Create thingies in the Template namespace that contain the nominative forms, e.g. [[Template:Nominative-Iouníou]] would contain "Ioúnios". (3) Whenever you need the nominative, instead of {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} write {{Nominative-{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}}}. How's that? Timwi

Putting variables in links or template names causes link table corruption. We should have left it disabled. -- Tim Starling

Timwi wrote: Last time I checked, you had CVS access. -- Tim Starling

Timwi wrote: Asking an "expert" to do everything for you is not the way to either become an expert or to even get thing in question done. -- Tim Starling

Tim Starling wrote: Tim, I'm very sorry you think of me this way, but I just don't have the time to become an expert just now. My course ends in August; I might become an expert then. I've already installed MediaWiki and I can dive right into it. Until then, however, I'm afraid I'm not sufficiently interested in unpaid volunteer work that I would jeopardise my result. Greetings, Timwi

Ray Saintonge wrote: Hm. I still don't read Timwi's original comment that way, but there you go. Asking a more experienced member of a team for their opinion before you spend too much time struggling with an implementation is surely the way to efficiency (especially from a team point of view). It's all very well learning from your mistakes, but it's a lot better if you can learn a bit from those of others as well. But anyway, who am I to judge the intentions of others? *shrug* -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]

Let's go back a few posts and I'll try to explain what's going on. Timwi wrote: Here I said "we should have left it disabled" because I have spent so long on "custom message" and template features that I've become rather bitter about them. It seems as if a large proportion of the total time I've spent on MediaWiki has been on templates, and I don't even agree with the way they are being used in Wikipedia. I think they make editing difficult. But here I am, implementing them anyway. Why? I don't know, popular demand I guess. Anyway, I'm sick of them and I have no interest in fixing bugs or adding more related features. Timwi's priorities are different to my priorities. What I work on in MediaWiki depends on what is rewarding for me, not what is rewarding for him. Before I became a developer, I also found that what was important to me was different to the priorities of the existing developers. But instead of trying to annoy the developers into making me happy, I decided to do it myself. I see this as a much more positive activity. Timwi has made 500 edits and 25 mailing list posts in the last week, and he tells us he has no time. I think he just has different priorities. Learning how to write MediaWiki code is not a full time job. It might be challenging, but what is life without challenges? -- Tim Starling