Wikitech-l July 2015

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Database dumps
by Byrial Jensen 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Until some weeks ago http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html used to show 4 dumps in progress at the same time. That meant that new database dumps normally was available within about 3 weeks for all databases except for enwiki and maybe dewiki where the dump process due to size took longer time. However the 4 dumps processes at one time become 3 some weeks ago. And after massive failures at June 4, only one dump has been in progress at the same time. So at the current speed it will take several months to come thru all dumps. Is it possible to speed up the process again using several dump processes at the same time? Thank you, Byrial

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User-Agent:
by Domas Mituzas 17 Apr '25

17 Apr '25

Hi! from now on specific per-bot/per-software/per-client User-Agent header is mandatory for contacting Wikimedia sites. Domas

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EBNF grammar project status?
by Steve Bennett 01 Apr '25

01 Apr '25

What's the status of the project to create a grammar for Wikitext in EBNF? There are two pages: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikitext_Metasyntax http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec Nothing seems to have happened since January this year. Also the comments on the latter page seem to indicate a lack of clear goal: is this just a fun project, is it to improve the existing parser, or is it to facilititate a new parser? It's obviously a lot of work, so it needs to be of clear benefit. Brion requested the grammar IIRC (and there's a comment to that effect at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7 ), so I'm wondering what became of it. Is there still a goal of replacing the parser? Or is there some alternative plan? Steve

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Missing Section Headings
by Marc Riddell 13 Sep '24

13 Sep '24

Hello, I have been a WP editor since 2006. I hope you can help me. For some reason I no longer have Section Heading titles showing in the Articles. This is true of all Headings including the one that carries the Article subject's name. When there is a Table of Contents, it appears fine and, when I click on a particular Section, it goes to that Section, but all that is there is a straight line separating the Sections. There is also no button to edit a Section. If I edit the page and remove the "== ==" markers from the Section Titles, the Title then shows up, but not as a Section Heading. Also, I don't have any Date separators on my Want List. This started 2 days ago. Any thoughts? Thanks, Marc Riddell [[User:Michael David]]

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How to make commits from mirrored Wikimedia repos show up on your GitHub profile
by Bartosz Dziewoński 27 Jun '24

27 Jun '24

I know it has been annoying a couple of people other than me, so now that I've learned how to make it work I'll share the knowledge here. tl;dr: Star the repositories. No, seriously. (And yes, you need to star each extension repo separately.) (Is there a place on mw.org to put this tidbit on?) ------- Forwarded message ------- From: "Brian Levine" <support(a)github.com> (GitHub Staff) To: matma.rex(a)gmail.com Cc: Subject: Re: Commits in mirrored repositories not showing up on my profile Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 06:47:19 +0200 Hi Bartosz In order to link your commits to your GitHub account, you need to have some association with the repository other than authoring the commit. Usually, having push access gives you that connection. In this case, you don't have push permission, so we don't link you to the commit. The easy solution here is for you to star the repository. If you star it - along with the other repositories that are giving you this problem - we'll see that you're connected to the repository and you'll get contribution credit for those commits. Cheers Brian -- Matma Rex

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XML dumps
by Lars Aronsson 11 Jan '16

11 Jan '16

The XML database dumps are missing all through May, apparently because of a memory leak that is being worked on, as described here, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98585 However, that information doesn't reach the person who wants to download a fresh dump and looks here, http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html I think it should be possible to make a regular schedule for when these dumps should be produced, e.g. once each month or once every second month, and treat any delay as a bug. The process to produce them has been halted by errors many times in the past, and even when it runs as intended the interval is unpredictable. Now when there is a bug, all dumps are halted, i.e. much delayed. For a user of the dumps, this is extremely frustrating. With proper release management, it should be possible to run the old version of the process until the new version has been tested, first on some smaller wikis, and gradually on the larger ones. -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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Re: [Wikitech-l] VisualEditor support for table copy-and-paste from Word
by Koerner, Chris L 22 Dec '15

22 Dec '15

This drag and drop from a CSV and other mentions of VE neatness would make a great blog post. I would love see a post about being productive in VisualEditor. Tips and tricks as it were. -Chris K. This electronic mail and any attached documents are intended solely for the named addressee(s) and contain confidential information. If you are not an addressee, or responsible for delivering this email to an addressee, you have received this email in error and are notified that reading, copying, or disclosing this email is prohibited. If you received this email in error, immediately reply to the sender and delete the message completely from your computer system.

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2015-07-01 Scrum of Scrums notes
by Grace Gellerman 14 Nov '15

14 Nov '15

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Scrum_of_scrums/2015-07-01

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MW support for Composer equivalent for JavaScript packages
by Daniel Werner 06 Nov '15

06 Nov '15

Hey, I just wanted to check in about the status of enabling JavaScript package management usage in MediaWiki. I am basically talking about an equivalent for JS to what we have with Composer for PHP. Real-world example: The "data-values/value-view" package[0] is defining "jquery.event.special.eachchange.js": ValueView/lib/jquery.event/jquery.event.special.eachchange.js Now, recently I needed the same functionality in one of my extensions, so I just copied it over. [1] I know that this is the worst way one could do this, but as far as I can see we don't have that much of a choice right now. Here are the alternative options I can see: Moving "jquery.event.special.eachchange.js" out of the "data-values/value-view" package into its own "WMDE/jquery-eachchange" package... 1. ... and using it in my extension via composer. + pro: two or more extensions or other packages requiring this package will still result in having only one MW-wide installation.. - con: requires MW specific code which is actually not related to the MW-independent package to feed the resource loader. - con: using Composer to manage pure JavaScript packages! Uuuh, ugly! 2. ... and having a build step in other packages using the package, pulling the "WMDE/jquery-eachchange" somewhere into the file structure of the packages/extensions using it. + pro: don't need to abuse composer, we can use "npm", "Bower" or any other arbitrary JS package manager here. - con: got to tell resource loader somehow... (didn't think so much about that yet) - con: if more than one extensions or other packages require this package we still end up with the same code twice or more often in one MW installation. 3. Combining 1 and 2: Start with 2, using a JS package manager. Then going to 1, creating a composer package and pulling the "WMDE/jquery-eachchange" package in via some build script. + pro: The two pros from 1 + 2 + pro: ^^ - con: still got to tell resource loader somehow... - con: Overhead; We now create two packages where the Composer one is just a bridge to the MW-world, still polluting packagist.org. Still kind of ugly and more effort for publishing a package and therefore potentially scaring programmers away from doing so since they've got better things to do than doing work that could be automated. I have not seen Approach 2 and 3 yet. Though I could imagine that the VisualEditor team has used something like that. Approach 1 is the way the "data-values/value-view" package itself is being handled. And that package should actually be a MW independent pure JS package but right now it contains MW specific code and uses composer for distribution! There is still another option but that had to be properly implemented: 4. Choose one native JS package manager for now and go with it (add support for others later perhaps). Integrate it properly with MW (resource loader to begin with), document how to use it and finally distribute JS code coming from the MW world but useful for other projects in a way where it can actually be used in a non-MW context. This has already been bugging me when working on Wikidata. Now I'd like to reuse some of the code I have written there without spending hours and hours with option 3 because there should be support for option 4 rather sooner or later. So I am wondering; Does anyone have any thoughts, any alternatives perhaps or is there any roadmap on anything like the option 4 that I have shown? Cheers, Daniel [0]: https://packagist.org/packages/data-values/value-view [1]: https://github.com/DanweDE/mediawiki-ext-UserBitcoinAddresses/blob/master/r…

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New RFC: better JS minification
by Max Semenik 01 Nov '15

01 Nov '15

Hi, I'd like to present a new RFC for your consideration: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Minifier It is about how we can shave 10-15% off the size if JavaScript delivered to users. Your comments are highly welcome!:) -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])

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