I...please...would like some help/suggestions.
I hereby annonce giving up soft security attempts with Papotages. I think I have tried to the latest end I possibly could. And now, to my shame, I decided to give up. Criticisms toward me trying to do this is is part of my decision, but today it is also clear that it is not efficient in the end.
Now, given that : when his user name was blocked, he created 9 vandal user names and went on.
Given that after his 10 user names were blocked, he went on with ips, I wonder if it is very valuable to try the same pattern, and to meet the same problems.
So, I am asking help here, either from someone who would feel like doing something (in truth, I do not think any of the french-speaking person is interested in discussing with him constructively), or from someone who will find a technical suggestion (going as far as blocking half of switzerland :-)). Either way.
I am done with it.
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Anthere wrote:
I...please...would like some help/suggestions.
I hereby annonce giving up soft security attempts with Papotages. I think I have tried to the latest end I possibly could. And now, to my shame, I decided to give up. Criticisms toward me trying to do this is is part of my decision, but today it is also clear that it is not efficient in the end.
Now, given that : when his user name was blocked, he created 9 vandal user names and went on.
Given that after his 10 user names were blocked, he went on with ips, I wonder if it is very valuable to try the same pattern, and to meet the same problems.
So, I am asking help here, either from someone who would feel like doing something (in truth, I do not think any of the french-speaking person is interested in discussing with him constructively), or from someone who will find a technical suggestion (going as far as blocking half of switzerland :-)). Either way.
I am done with it.
I was discussing possible measures against this guy on the IRC channel. I came to the conclusion that the best feature to implement would be a method for quickly rolling back page creation. Possibly, sysops could have a column of checkboxes on RC. They would then be able to tick all the Papotages-related edits, and roll them back in one request.
Perhaps this could be submitted to Sourceforge feature requests.
-- Tim Starling
Tim Starling ts4294967296@hotmail.com writes:
I was discussing possible measures against this guy on the IRC channel. I came to the conclusion that the best feature to implement would be a method for quickly rolling back page creation. Possibly, sysops could have a column of checkboxes on RC.
Those power features will do more harm than good. Using such a feature would mean that the wiki concept failed.
Perhaps this could be submitted to Sourceforge feature requests.
It's much easier. Just do nothing for some days and the offender will quickly loose interest in his destructive doings. The real vandals are those who add (commercial) stuff for optimizing their search engine results.
Karl Eichwalder wrote:
Tim Starling ts4294967296@hotmail.com writes:
I was discussing possible measures against this guy on the IRC channel. I came to the conclusion that the best feature to implement would be a method for quickly rolling back page creation. Possibly, sysops could have a column of checkboxes on RC.
Those power features will do more harm than good. Using such a feature would mean that the wiki concept failed.
Rubbish. The ability to revert is an important part of the wiki model.
Perhaps this could be submitted to Sourceforge feature requests.
It's much easier. Just do nothing for some days and the offender will quickly loose interest in his destructive doings. The real vandals are those who add (commercial) stuff for optimizing their search engine results.
This is an encyclopedia project, not a playground. We have a responsibility to our readers to keep the content maximally accurate, at all times.
-- Tim Starling.
Tim Starling ts4294967296@hotmail.com writes:
This is an encyclopedia project, not a playground. We have a responsibility to our readers to keep the content maximally accurate, at all times.
We are still allowed to take a break for sleep or vacation - during such a period a replacing expert may or may not be available. The reader is always responsible fot the data he judges as "the truth"; we should encourage him to make more use of the version link if in doubt.
Fighting "vandals" will not work and mass rollbacks are always a little bit risky.
It's much easier. Just do nothing for some days
and the offender will
quickly loose interest in his destructive doings.
The real vandals are
those who add (commercial) stuff for optimizing
their search engine
results.
This is an encyclopedia project, not a playground. We have a responsibility to our readers to keep the content maximally accurate, at all times.
-- Tim Starling.
In case you forgot, Wikipedia is a wiki. Our sucess is a direct result of our openness. We can't just say that, so it's "maximally accurate", that we ban people that would go away anyway. Wikipedia is a work in progress. LDan
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Anthere wrote:
I...please...would like some help/suggestions.
I hereby annonce giving up soft security attempts with Papotages. I think I have tried to the latest end I possibly could. And now, to my shame, I decided to give up. Criticisms toward me trying to do this is is part of my decision, but today it is also clear that it is not efficient in the end.
Now, given that : when his user name was blocked, he created 9 vandal user names and went on.
Given that after his 10 user names were blocked, he went on with ips, I wonder if it is very valuable to try the same pattern, and to meet the same problems.
So, I am asking help here, either from someone who would feel like doing something (in truth, I do not think any of the french-speaking person is interested in discussing with him constructively), or from someone who will find a technical suggestion (going as far as blocking half of switzerland :-)). Either way.
I am done with it.
This is the IP ranges that he use: colt.ch: 212.23.252.0 - 212.23.255.255 tele2.ch: 212.152.0.0 - 212.152.15.255 tele2.ch: 213.103.0.0 - 213.103.159.255 ch-sunrise: 62.167.0.0 - 62.167.255.255 bluewin.ch: 62.202.0.0 - 62.202.15.255
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