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Anthere

9 Jan 2005 9 Jan '05

7:29 a.m.

Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/ Anthere

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Ashar Voultoiz

9 Jan 9 Jan

4:54 p.m.

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Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/ Anthere

And ? Just looks like a domain squatting, owner expecting users to make typos when accessing wikipedia. What do you want us to do with it ? :o) - -- Ashar Voultoiz - WP++++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar Servers in trouble ? noc (at) wikimedia (dot) org "This signature is a virus. Copy me in yours to spread it."

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David Gerard

6:09 p.m.

Ashar Voultoiz (hashar(a)altern.org) [050110 03:54]:

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Anthere wrote:

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> Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/

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And ? Just looks like a domain squatting, owner expecting users to make typos when accessing wikipedia. What do you want us to do with it ? :o)

It's fairly obvious trademark abuse (though not registered yet, is it?), and the Foundation should at least complain on this ground. Dispute resolution costs US$2000 per domain, so avoiding that would be good ... - d.

John Collison

8:53 p.m.

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Ashar Voultoiz (hashar(a)altern.org) [050110 03:54]:

Anthere wrote:

> Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/

> And ? Just looks like a domain squatting, owner expecting users to > make > typos when accessing wikipedia. > What do you want us to do with it ? :o)

And although it is only one letter different, it is an a rather than e, and those letters are not beside each other on a QWERTY layout. Normally, they aren't even typed with the same finger so I think we're safe: not too many people will make that mistake. John [[User:Ludraman]]

Jens Ropers

9:55 p.m.

On 9 Jan 2005, at 21:53, John Collison wrote:

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Ashar Voultoiz (hashar(a)altern.org) [050110 03:54]:

Anthere wrote:

> Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/

> And ? Just looks like a domain squatting, owner expecting users to > make > typos when accessing wikipedia. > What do you want us to do with it ? :o)

Yea. I think it's much more important that we get the two remaining generic wikipAedia domains under our control (wikipaedia.org and wikipaedia.com). Because unlike with wikipadia.org, people are actually likely to make the "mistake" of typing "wikipaedia". I did a lot of research on wikipaedia.org and wikipaedia.com many months ago and someone from VereinDE-l wanted to look into this (it's much better if the German association takes care of this because the registrant/cybersquatter is German) but after I sent some reminder the issue just seems to have died, with nobody being particularly interested... -- ropers [[en:User:Ropers]] www.ropersonline.com

Arne Klempert

11:47 p.m.

Jens Ropers wrote:

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Yea. I think it's much more important that we get the two remaining generic wikipAedia domains under our control (wikipaedia.org and wikipaedia.com). Because unlike with wikipadia.org, people are

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likely to make the "mistake" of typing "wikipaedia". I did a lot of research on wikipaedia.org and wikipaedia.com many months ago and someone from VereinDE-l wanted to look into this (it's much better if the German association takes care of this because the registrant/cybersquatter is German) but after I sent some reminder the issue just seems to have died, with nobody being particularly interested...

You talked to me. It's still on my to-do list. Sorry for the delay but in the meantime I decided to wait until "Wikipedia" is registered as a trademark in the EU (according to Jimbo the paperwork for this is done). I know that a registered trademark is not necessary, but from my experience it would help us a lot in getting the problem solved without long discussions. -Arne [[de:Benutzer:Akl]]

Ashar Voultoiz

10 Jan 10 Jan

8:11 a.m.

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Hello, Really we should just stick to wikipedia.org period. Buying more domains will just get registrars richer. It's just like slashdot, you have to remember it finishes with .org not .net :o) cheers, - -- Ashar Voultoiz - WP++++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar Servers in trouble ? noc (at) wikimedia (dot) org "This signature is a virus. Copy me in yours to spread it."

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Ray Saintonge

10:34 a.m.

Ashar Voultoiz wrote:

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Really we should just stick to wikipedia.org period. Buying more domains will just get registrars richer.

Of course. The possible confusing domains are endless: wikypedia, wigipedia, wikibedia, etc., etc. Ec

Mark Williamson

9 Jan 9 Jan

11:58 p.m.

I think the creativity of the domain squatter at work there should be applauded. It also exemplifies the wonderful freedom of the internet and how it applies to EVERYBODY. I think we should let it be rather than harassing somebody trying to make a living by screwing others. Mark On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:29:43 +0100, Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Sean Barrett

10 Jan 10 Jan

4:47 a.m.

Mark Williamson stated for the record:

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To ensure the security of our trolls as well as our serious correspondents, please observe the following safety precautions: Trolls are wild. Please stay on the visitor paths, observe posted signs and do not reach into or climb on exhibits. Please do not throw things at the trolls. Please do not feed the trolls. Making loud noises may startle the trolls. Thank you for your cooperation.

Mark Williamson

7:45 a.m.

That was funny, yes, but I don't think it's very constructive. I was very serious when I made that post, and I still am. That person is earning their living by screwing over innocent folks, just as you and all non-unemployed people earn a living doing whatever it is you do for a living. Domain squatting doesn't take a genius, but to come up with the idea you'd certainly have to not be an idiot. Every domain the squatter squats is most likely a work of creativity, an idea that suddenly popped into their head rather than a list sent to them in the newspaper. Mark On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:47:02 -0800, Sean Barrett <sean(a)epoptic.org> wrote:

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Mark Williamson stated for the record:

Stirling Newberry

3:58 p.m.

On Jan 9, 2005, at 11:47 PM, Sean Barrett wrote:

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I was just about tempted last night to create a template Template:Troll "Warning! This page has become infested by a family of [[Troll(wikipedia) | Trolls]]. Readers are warned that certain crank/fanatic/extremists/down right apeshit looney POVs are over represented on this page, and using it as a reference for a term paper will get you put on academic probation. Editors are warned that the trolls are organized, armed, and extremely hostile." More seriously, wiki is going to have to think about how to deal with organized groups of trolls trying to steal a page for their propaganda purposes. This is different than individual trolls. Current mechanisms allow organized trolls to circumvent just about every protection, since at any given time they will be the consensus on the page. This is important because there are large well funded groups out there that are already targeting wikipedia (whose existence and use has not gone unnoticed in political circles). And when they arrive, it will be a shock wave.

Anthere

6:14 p.m.

Sean Barrett a écrit:

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Mark Williamson stated for the record:

Thank you for the laugh tonight :-)

Angela

11 Jan 11 Jan

4:37 a.m.

On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:29:43 +0100, Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

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Reported by Arnaudus on fr : http://www (dot) wikipadia (dot) org/

I can understand the concern, but there are hundreds of such cases, including many in the list at http://www.whois.net/search.cgi2?str=wikip . Searches for similar groups of letter such as wikkip or wikpe show even more. I don't think we ought to worry too much about this. Even Google don't attempt to control all possible misspellings of their name: http://www.googel.org/ http://www.googl.com http://www.googal.com/ Angela.

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Angela
Anthere
Arne Klempert
Ashar Voultoiz
David Gerard
Jens Ropers
John Collison
Mark Williamson
Ray Saintonge
Sean Barrett
Stirling Newberry