There were many changes that I like, but several that were bad. Listing the latter in order of decreasing importance:
<What links here> no longer indicates what links through redirects. I think that this is a significant loss of function.
The watchlist no longer watches User: pages or Wikipedia: pages. It's bad enough that User talk: and Wikipedia talk: weren't watched; now it's worse.
There are a few links that are now available only from the Quickbar: <Watch this page>, <What links here>, and <User contributions>. Can these *please* at least be listed at the bottom of the page? (I'd actually prefer to keep these items at the top, but the bottom will do.) The new format is slightly too wide for my window with the Quickbar, which however isn't a problem if I have the Quickbar turned off, but I make heavy use of the first of these two links. I can accept being condemned to an ugly display for my particular setup if this makes things nicer for a wide class of other users, but I don't see how putting *anything* *only* on the Quickbar helps *anybody*.
The watchlist also no longer displays nonexistent pages that I'm watching. You may not believe it, but I actually look at this list.
A construction like "[[thing]]s" no longer mimics "[[things|thing]]" if the page [[thing]] doesn't exist. This is difficult to read.
"~~~" doesn't change to my name in the <Preview> anymore, only in the <Save>. This is largely cosmetic, but I still find the change undesirable.
The red colour of unwritten links is different from before -- in fact, hard to distinguish from the purple colour of followed links. (The purple is provided by my browser, of course, but is very common. This is M$IE 5 for SunOS Unix. Netsacpe 4.5 looks better than this, but still worse than before.)
BTW, I haven't had any problems with response times -- indeed, <130.94.122.197> is much faster than <www.wikipedia.com>!
-- Toby Bartels toby@math.ucr.edu
On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 03:38:34AM -0700, Toby Bartels wrote:
<What links here> no longer indicates what links through redirects. I think that this is a significant loss of function.
On a related note: shouldn't we disallow redirects to redirects?
I saw duplicates on the "what links here" pages. A simple DISTINCT in the concerning SQL should solve that.
I also saw that there is no longer an 'unsuccesful searches' page. I personally don't mind that but perhaps other people might.
Finally I still have absolutely no problems with slowly loading pages or anything. Even the "heavy" pages with lots of database processing are very snappy. (Yes, I know, wait until the load gets realistic.) All login/logout problems I had and settings for the quickbar that did not seem to effectuated were because my IE6.0 was doing some unexpected caching, so that has all been resolved.
-- Jan Hidders
Finally I still have absolutely no problems with slowly loading pages or anything. Even the "heavy" pages with lots of database processing are very
snappy. (Yes, I know, wait until the load gets realistic.)
The test server works fast for me today as well.
For the missing/changed features that were mentioned, IMHO all functions of the current software should be working in the new one as well, except they have become unnecessary or are merged within other functions.
That said, I believe we can live with minor items not working in the beginning. Since we (Lee, mostly:) have now root access to the server, I expect testing of new/improved functions to be more organized, and fixes to be installed faster than under the current system (no offense, Jimbo;).
Magnus
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