Erik Moeller wrote:

Daniel-

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So, has Perl knowingly abused any sysop user rights on the Maori Wikipedia, Wikibooks, or Meta? Granted he failed to follow the largely unwritten admin rules for Meta, but an apparent honest mistake is hardly grounds for de-adminship (unless he does it again after being informed of those rules). His actions on Meta seemed to be acts in good faith as far as I could see.

He reached his position by lying and deception.

I agree. Meta is a bit of a craphole and Alexander did what he could to clean it up. I see no evidence that there was any attempt to resolve this matter in personal discussion - there is certainly no message on his talk page. Why does this need to be discussed on a public mailing list?

Like I said before, I want Perl desysopped on meta. I'm not too keen on unilateral action, so it's not something that can be done with a private discussion.

The policy issues on Meta should be separated in the discussion from any personal issues. As he notes on his user page, Alex is a kid with Asperger's syndrome. Don't give him too much of a hard time, please.

I used to think that way, but contact with another Asperger's sufferer on Wikipedia changed my mind. PMelvilleAustin is a model WikiCitizen. He has trouble understanding policy and social conventions, but instead of acting impulsively and trying to cover up complaints, he seeks advice and profusely apologises for any wrongdoing. When challenged over his decision making ability, he quietly resigned sysopship, an honour which had originally been foisted on him unexpectedly. AS is not an excuse. Indeed, if you read up on AS, you find that the disorder only goes a small way towards explaining Perl's behaviour.

If he does something really stupid there are more than enough ways to undo it.

Furthermore, Meta issues belong on foundation-l, not on wikipedia-l, as Meta is not just about Wikipedia.

I don't mind moving to foundation-l if that's what you want.

-- Tim Starling