nobody@nowhere.invalid (Unknown) wrote in news:26582.5949878947$1044397192@news.gmane.org:
I know a lot of people who thought the Esperanto Wikipedia was the only language that existed in the project and I'd imagine that we're not alone in this. I started promoting www.vikipedio.org because people got confused when we promoted eo.wikipedia.org.
I also know a lot of people who don't speak English who simply click off a page if they see that it's not in a language they understand, thus they'd never get past the English front page of Wikipedia. Also, a dropdown box like we use at www.tejo.org might work as well, instead of the portal as planned, but I think the multilingual portal at www.wikipedia.org is necessary.
Also, what's wrong if people have linked to www.wikipedia.org from their webpages. It will still go to Wikipedia, they don't need to change their links! The Wikipedia is a multilingual project, not just an English project. Plus, this is one of the reasons why the Spanish project won't merge back with us.
I'm crossposting this on Intlwiki-L and Wikipedia-L so all can participate. I recommend that we continue this discussion on Wikipedia-L.
It seems clear to my that the English Wikipedia is not willing to give up his prominend location at www.wikipedia.org.
The first time I requested to move the Engelish Wikipedia was in october or december 2001. And again whit the change form .com to .org and later also.
The best thing every Wikipedia can do is to obtain the national wikipedia- domain and use that for promotion.
There are already the domains; www.wikipedia.nl -> the dutch and frysian wikipedia www.wikipedia.be -> the dutch, french and german wikipedia www.wikipedia.de -> the german wikipedia www.wikipedia.pl -> the polisch wikipedia www.vikipedio.org -> the esperanto wikipedia Others ?
The folowing domains are still free and should be registerd by there Wikipedia's. www.wikipedia.dk www.wikipedia.no www.wikipedia.fr -> the french and catalan wikipedia and Spain,Portugal, ....
And also, keep the controll over the domain local, at least until there is a non-proffit organisation.
Dear Wikipedians!
The folowing domains are still free and should be registerd by there Wikipedia's. www.wikipedia.dk www.wikipedia.no www.wikipedia.fr -> the french and catalan wikipedia and Spain,Portugal, ....
I know I've already said this a few times: don't wait with the registration! It's really annoying to fight with a domain grabber about it.
And also, keep the controll over the domain local, at least until
there is
a non-proffit organisation.
Uuups, did I trust Jimbo too early? ;-)
Kurt
"Kurt Jansson" jansson=hi6Y0CQ0nG0@public.gmane.org wrote in news:001401c2cd38$4d0c2760$43a1e6d9@maximilian:
And also, keep the controll over the domain local, at least until
there is
a non-proffit organisation.
Uuups, did I trust Jimbo too early? ;-)
It not a matter of not trusting Jimbo. I am a pessimist (and proud of it).
Now Wikipedia stands or falls whit the support and funding of Jimbo. When (if) the support of Jimbo fals away, for whatever reason, the wikipedia.org can get lost.
If a member of a Wikipedia is the owner of the local domain you have more security that if things go very wrong you can save your wikipedia community by sending the traffic of your own domain to a new website and attempt to setup a new Wikipedia.
Also when Wikipedia is down you can point your domain to a temporary page to explain your visitors there a technical problems and so save some new visitors. (I do that now whit wikipedia.be) In general, you have more options, freedom, securtity.
Using a local country domain is the smart thing to do. And if there are several languages in youre country you can help other wikipedias. Like;
www.wikipedia.us -> english, Español and the chinees Wikipedia
At 06:59 PM 2/5/03 +0000, Giskart wrote:
Also when Wikipedia is down you can point your domain to a temporary page to explain your visitors there a technical problems and so save some new visitors. (I do that now whit wikipedia.be) In general, you have more options, freedom, securtity.
Using a local country domain is the smart thing to do. And if there are several languages in youre country you can help other wikipedias. Like;
www.wikipedia.us -> english, Español and the chinees Wikipedia
Why only those three? The New York subway system currently has eight languages on the automatic farecard machines; ten or twenty times that many are spoken in the city, more elsewhere in the country.
www.wikipedia.us could reasonably include Greek, French, Japanese, Italian, Yiddish, Lakota, Russian, and almost any other language, including probably all of those that have Wikipedias. (There is at least one dialect spoken here that can probably be omitted: the form of German called "Pennsylvania Dutch", because it's used only by a community that avoids the Internet, and many other aspects of modern technological culture.)
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