How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this" message.
Something like this: * User submits an edit * Wikipedia accepts the edit, and... * Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then: * Click on the "Read message" button, or * Just ignore it
We can think of variations, like, send the user directly to the message page, rather than the "you have a message waiting". Another, for egregious cases, would send the user to the "message waiting" or 'please acknowledge this' page after EVERY edit, until the click an OKAY button.
Ed poor
-----Original Message----- From: tarquin [mailto:tarquin@planetunreal.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:43 AM To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] a way to contact IP users
(this is a general feature suggestion, BTW, though it's a case on En that's reminded me of it)
Someone on En: is adding pages on actors with just dates of birth. it's not vandalism, but admins have deleted many of these, because they're such tiny stubs they're basically worthless. it's not the first time that we get users who make many well-meaning edits, but make mistakes that leave us a lot to clean up.
This reminds me of something I suggested ages ago -- we need a way to contact unregistered users to politely point of where they're putting a foot wrong. My suggestion was this: * on the IP contributions page, add a "alert this user" dialog box, or a link to one * that user will then see the message text above above every edit box
This could save us a lot of cleaning up work. I also worry that these people may get discouraged and leave when they find we've deleted their additions -- we may be losing potentially valuable contributors.
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How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this" message.
Something like this:
- User submits an edit
- Wikipedia accepts the edit, and...
- Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then:
- Click on the "Read message" button, or
- Just ignore it
A good idea, but it would need to have at least a message queue to handle multiple messages, so you arrive at an internal messaging system. Unfortunately, this would have to be a bit of a hack, as IPs expire rather quickly. With cookies it could be done more reliably but not in all cases. Anyway, I think there's little opposition to more advanced messaging/ban/revert features, they just haven't been coded so far.
Regards,
Erik
On Monday 25 November 2002 09:43, Poor, Edmund W wrote:
How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this" message.
Something like this:
- User submits an edit
- Wikipedia accepts the edit, and...
- Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then:
- Click on the "Read message" button, or
- Just ignore it
We can think of variations, like, send the user directly to the message page, rather than the "you have a message waiting". Another, for egregious cases, would send the user to the "message waiting" or 'please acknowledge this' page after EVERY edit, until the click an OKAY button.
Sounds good, but we'd still have trouble contacting the AOLer who's been writing pages consisting only of someone's birthdate.
phma
Ed,
I know you mean very well, and that you're trying to help solve an important problem, but I'm generally opposed to giving admins any special powers that they do not already have have. Maybe give everyone this power?
Isn't there another way to achieve what you are trying to achieve?
Larry
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Poor, Edmund W wrote:
How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this" message.
Something like this:
- User submits an edit
- Wikipedia accepts the edit, and...
- Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then:
- Click on the "Read message" button, or
- Just ignore it
We can think of variations, like, send the user directly to the message page, rather than the "you have a message waiting". Another, for egregious cases, would send the user to the "message waiting" or 'please acknowledge this' page after EVERY edit, until the click an OKAY button.
Ed poor
-----Original Message----- From: tarquin [mailto:tarquin@planetunreal.com] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:43 AM To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] a way to contact IP users
(this is a general feature suggestion, BTW, though it's a case on En that's reminded me of it)
Someone on En: is adding pages on actors with just dates of birth. it's not vandalism, but admins have deleted many of these, because they're such tiny stubs they're basically worthless. it's not the first time that we get users who make many well-meaning edits, but make mistakes that leave us a lot to clean up.
This reminds me of something I suggested ages ago -- we need a way to contact unregistered users to politely point of where they're putting a foot wrong. My suggestion was this:
- on the IP contributions page, add a "alert this user" dialog box, or a
link to one
- that user will then see the message text above above every edit box
This could save us a lot of cleaning up work. I also worry that these people may get discouraged and leave when they find we've deleted their additions -- we may be losing potentially valuable contributors.
Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
Larry Sanger wrote:
Ed,
I know you mean very well, and that you're trying to help solve an important problem, but I'm generally opposed to giving admins any special powers that they do not already have have. Maybe give everyone this power?
Isn't there another way to achieve what you are trying to achieve?
Larry
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Poor, Edmund W wrote:
I agree with Larry on this. All logged-in users (or maybe even all users) should have the power to send a message to unregistered IPs: there is no need for a similar power to talk to logged-in users, as the talk page will already work for them.
Perhaps this could be done by just editing the [[User:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]] page for the appropriate IP.
Neil
How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this" message.
Something like this:
- User submits an edit
- Wikipedia accepts the edit, and...
- Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then:
- Click on the "Read message" button, or
- Just ignore it
We can think of variations, like, send the user directly to the message page, rather than the "you have a message waiting". Another, for egregious cases, would send the user to the "message waiting" or 'please acknowledge this' page after EVERY edit, until the click an OKAY button.
Ed poor
Larry Sanger wrote:
Ed,
I know you mean very well, and that you're trying to help solve an important problem, but I'm generally opposed to giving admins any special powers that they do not already have have. Maybe give everyone this power?
Isn't there another way to achieve what you are trying to achieve?
Larry
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Poor, Edmund W wrote:
I agree with Larry on this. All logged-in users (or maybe even all users) should have the power to send a message to unregistered IPs: there is no need for a similar power to talk to logged-in users, as the talk page will already work for them.
Perhaps this could be done by just editing the [[User:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]] page for the appropriate IP.
Neil
How about giving admins the ability to throw up a "Please read this"
message.
Something like this:
- User submits an edit
- Wikipedia accepts the edit, and...
- Sends user to a "You have an urgent administrative message" page.
User can then:
- Click on the "Read message" button, or
- Just ignore it
We can think of variations, like, send the user directly to the
message page, rather than the "you have a message waiting". Another, for egregious cases, would send the user to the "message waiting" or 'please acknowledge this' page after EVERY edit, until the click an OKAY button.
Ed poor
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