Erik wrote:
I did listen, and I said more than that. Having a way to quickly and intuitively find out the basic layout functions is useful, and I see no reason not to give the 5-10% of non-IE users that functionality.
I and others have already given you a reason! The 2) feature is non-intuitive and confusing. I found it very frustrating to select text and then do the *natural* thing by hitting the big fat bold B, expecting the text to either become bolded or for markup needed to turn the text bold to be imputed. This did not happen. My cursor jumped to this odd text field at the top of screen and with very unhelpful '''Bold text''' there. That was not what I expected, so I repeated the same thing think I did something wrong.
I am a user and I am telling you that that was not a nice or useful experience. Yet you still in effect say "nonsense*.
--mav
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Daniel-
The 2) feature is non-intuitive and confusing. I found it very frustrating to select text and then do the *natural* thing by hitting the big fat bold B, expecting the text to either become bolded or for markup needed to turn the text bold
That's not possible. Your browser does not support it. It neither supports changing the selection *nor* retrieving it. So the best we can do in these browsers is give the user a kind of help menu to get sample text for easy copy and pasting (which is particularly useful for stuff like the signature tildes, which some users cannot type). The inputbox says clearly "Click a button to get an example text". If you can think of a better text to put in there, let me know.
However, the cursor should not shift to the input field above the textarea. It should stay inside the textarea. Please make sure your cache is empty before testing.
Regards,
Erik
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