I disagree. IntlWiki-l should be about non-policy related interlanguage coordination issues
The separation doesn't make sense. Because intwiki-l is such a specialized list, most people just subscribe to wikipedia-l. Which is fine, because we really don't need a separate list:
* Language string and site setup issues should be brought up on wikitech-l where all the developers actually participate and can fix problems. Small string problems have gone unfixed because people mention them in all sorts of different places. * Coordination issues should be brought up on wikipedia-l where participants from all the large Wikipedias will read about them. The whole "embassy" idea has been stagnating pretty much because there's no common place to talk about it.
By having more international participants on wikipedia-l, people would also automatically become more careful about which mailing list to use for English-only matters.
As for projects without a mailing list, well, if they use wikipedia-l in the meantime, that should greatly speed up the creation of new mailing lists. Their posts are just as much noise on the intwiki list: Why should the French wiki-ambassador care about the site structure of the Slovakian Wikipedia? On wikipedia-l it would at least be noticed, but saying "use intwiki-l in the meantime" is a cop-out that allows us to ignore the problems because, after all, it's on a "less important" mailing list.
If we continue to use intwiki-l, the alienation between the English and non-English Wikipedias will increase further.
Regards,
Erik
--- Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de wrote:
If we continue to use intwiki-l, the alienation between the English and non-English Wikipedias will increase further.
I agree. Because people are confused between "internationalization" (which is about linking all of *us* together) and "international wikipedias" (that is, all smaller wikipedias, excluding the english wikipedia). It will stay that way as long as "international" will mean "non-english", which likely will stay that way a loooong time. Isn't the english wikipedia involved in internationalization just as well ?
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--- Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de wrote:
If we continue to use intwiki-l, the alienation between the English and non-English Wikipedias will increase further.
I agree. Because people are confused between "internationalization" (which is about linking all of *us* together) and "international wikipedias" (that is, all smaller wikipedias, excluding the english wikipedia). It will stay that way as long as "international" will mean "non-english", which likely will stay that way a loooong time. Isn't the english wikipedia involved in internationalization just as well ?
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