Neil Harris wrote:
Since it appears to be possible to generate Europanto by word-by-word translation of English into European languages chosen at random on a word-by-word basis, I'd imagine that it would not be too difficult to generate a Europanto Wikipedia programmatically, using the English Wikipedia as source material, and perhaps Wiktionary as the word-for-word translation dictionary. Throw in link grammars for fair-to-reasonable part-of-speech tagging...
Und voila! Esta Vikipedio Europantoi - L'encyclopédie fria e gratuita, mit 950,000 artikelen!
Curiously, my brain processes that as "The fried encyclopedia". So I guess it's a decent enough joke. As a Wikipedia language, though, it ranks up there with Klingon.
--Michael Snow
2006/2/4, Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net:
Curiously, my brain processes that as "The fried encyclopedia". So I guess it's a decent enough joke. As a Wikipedia language, though, it ranks up there with Klingon.
--Michael Snow
Maybe something for april fools this year? Just a thought.
-- Gerben van der Stouwe g.vanderstouwe@gmail.com
Or cold encyclopedia :\
On 2/4/06, Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
Neil Harris wrote:
Since it appears to be possible to generate Europanto by word-by-word translation of English into European languages chosen at random on a word-by-word basis, I'd imagine that it would not be too difficult to generate a Europanto Wikipedia programmatically, using the English Wikipedia as source material, and perhaps Wiktionary as the word-for-word translation dictionary. Throw in link grammars for fair-to-reasonable part-of-speech tagging...
Und voila! Esta Vikipedio Europantoi - L'encyclopédie fria e gratuita, mit 950,000 artikelen!
Curiously, my brain processes that as "The fried encyclopedia". So I guess it's a decent enough joke. As a Wikipedia language, though, it ranks up there with Klingon.
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Hey, Klingon may be nerdy and funky, and it may have less than 1 fully-competent native speakers (to be fair, there are at least 2 native speakers, but neither of them were raised entirely in Klingon because their parents gave up after realising belatedly that it lacks translations for words necessary to a rich and enjoyable childhood as "table" and "joy"), but at least it has a (mostly) constant vocabulary and grammar.
According to most of the more complex definitions of "language", Europanto wouldn't qualify as one -- it does not have a relatively fixed vocabulary. The source languages aren't even for-sure -- some people include all European languages, others limit it to German, English, French, and Spanish, others include various other languages such as Italian, Dutch, Portuguese, Swedish... until they resolve that issue of way-too-many-synonyms and the myriad linguistic uncertanties, it's more of a pan-European Wind Up Pidgin (got that phrase from JBR, who used the phrase "Czech-Italian wind-up pidgin" to describe Esperanto), but probably even less developed than that -- more of a jargon or a cant or argot.
Folks, come back when your language has a more stable vocabulary. The answer will probably still be a resounding "no" until there are native speakers or a huge huge following...
Sinceremente vosaltres, Marcos Williamson
On 04/02/06, Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
Neil Harris wrote:
Since it appears to be possible to generate Europanto by word-by-word translation of English into European languages chosen at random on a word-by-word basis, I'd imagine that it would not be too difficult to generate a Europanto Wikipedia programmatically, using the English Wikipedia as source material, and perhaps Wiktionary as the word-for-word translation dictionary. Throw in link grammars for fair-to-reasonable part-of-speech tagging...
Und voila! Esta Vikipedio Europantoi - L'encyclopédie fria e gratuita, mit 950,000 artikelen!
Curiously, my brain processes that as "The fried encyclopedia". So I guess it's a decent enough joke. As a Wikipedia language, though, it ranks up there with Klingon.
--Michael Snow _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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Oh, et, para l'entertainement Dvs., une traduzzione al Europante:
Hey, Klingon may be nerdy et funcky, et lo possiblement tiene menos de 1 totalmente-competent sprachadoras nativas (zum ser fair, hay at least 2 sprechedors nativos, but neither von ellos were raised entirement en Klingon porquoi sus parents gave arriba antes von realising belatedly que el lacks traducciones fur worter necessaire zum o ninho-hood rico e enjoyable comme "mesa" y "joi"), pero at menos el has un (mostly) constant vocabulaire et grammar.
According al most de los definitions mas complessos de "langue", Europanto no would qualifiquer como un -- nein tiene un vocabulario relativement fijado. The lenguajes sources son even para-sure -- some gente incluyen alle les lenguajes Europaisches, otros limit el zum Aleman, Englisch, Franzosisch, y Spagnol, altres incluyen lenguajes varios altres como l'Italiano, Nederlands, Portugesisch, Swedish... until ellos resolven l'issue del way-too-many-sinonimos y el myriad uncertanties linguistiques, es mas of a pan-Europeen Wind Up Pidgin, pero probablement even menos sviluppatto que that -- more de eine jargon o un cant o argot.
Gente, devolve quand votre idioma tiene un vocabulaire mas stable. El answer will probablement still ser eine "nein" resoundingo until hay speakadoras nativas o un following huge huge...
Sinceremente dvs., Marcos Williamson
On 04/02/06, Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
Neil Harris wrote:
Since it appears to be possible to generate Europanto by word-by-word translation of English into European languages chosen at random on a word-by-word basis, I'd imagine that it would not be too difficult to generate a Europanto Wikipedia programmatically, using the English Wikipedia as source material, and perhaps Wiktionary as the word-for-word translation dictionary. Throw in link grammars for fair-to-reasonable part-of-speech tagging...
Und voila! Esta Vikipedio Europantoi - L'encyclopédie fria e gratuita, mit 950,000 artikelen!
Curiously, my brain processes that as "The fried encyclopedia". So I guess it's a decent enough joke. As a Wikipedia language, though, it ranks up there with Klingon.
--Michael Snow _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l
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