Hello Mark W., Stirling N., John Lee, Ingrid Mazeltov & whoever else is interested,

I fail to see why all this inflammatory language is necessary -- or constructive. Instead of commenting on each offensive remark, I would like to adress the actual issue at hand -- the Yiddish Wikipedia.

I agree with Mark W. that one should be careful deleting stubs -- even when these are really rudimentary. I agree with Stirling N. that the quoted examples are very rudimentary indeed (but not in his language...) -- and I prefer to refrain from commenting Ingrid M.'s rather loaded remark.

As for the problem with the Yiddish Wikipedia, my personal experience is that it is hard to work with because of the problems with the user interface. Maybe someone could take the job to translate a new version from the Hebrew interface -- which has already dealt with most of the RTL issues at hand here.

And then I suggest to be liberal along the way concerning how rudimentary the stubs can be without being deleted.

Meanwhile, maybe we here on wikipedia-l can agree not to try to kill each other verbally and/or otherwise....? :)

Friendly greetings from

Olve

At 21:17 28/11/2004 +0000, various people wrote:

I am very sad that I have to report this, but Node is deleting stub articles in the Yiddish wikipedia.

To Node, I am asking you to stop dealing with languages you do not know. Let the smaller language Wikipedias grow naturally, without interference from non-speakers.

I knew what the articles said just as much as you did.

A page that says "_______ is a brother of [[________]]" and have the other article just link back, in addition to using incorrect orthography, is not even on the level of a stub, as is the case with an article simply saying "a singer".

I think it's very interesting that you are so upset about me interfering in Wikipedias in languages I do not know and asking me to let them grow naturally when you yourself support proposals to lock inactive Wikipedias, far from letting them grow naturally.

Your accusations are out of line Mr. Williamson. You owe the list an apology.

Agreed. Very out of line.

What accusations are you talking about, exactly, anyways? If you tell me accusations are out of line, can you at least let me know which ones?

If you aren't capable of understanding what you write, then you should think more before writing it.

So you are accusing me of something, but then are not willing to back it up with evidence?

Stop trying to waste my time.

You criticised someone Jewish, Mark, and for that hubris you'll pay.

If you're not willing to substantiate a claim with evidence, but rather prefer to make it and then try to get out of it later by telling me to stop wasting your time, it's probably better if you don't do it in the first place.

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Olve Utne http://utne.nvg.org