We need an upload space where people who care & have the time can test new features on an active (but unpublicized) site before the features go live. Wikipedia is crippled at the moment, and has been almost every time I've visited it in the last several months. When I go to a site on my broadband line at work and it takes 5 minutes to bring up a page, that is IMO a crippled site. We can't expect the casual user to have any patience for it, and also can't expect new users to want to come back.
kq
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Another grrr...
We seem to have lost the 'talk' page links from the pedia entirely, but I'm sure everyone's noticed it by now!
And I noticed some requests on the recent changes pages for people NOT to make 'fill in text here' the contents of a page... I just did it by accident and then I couldn't get the page to load to re-edit it. Apparantly when you create a new page by redirecting it creates the page, but instead of sending you to the edit screen it dumped me into the pageview.
The coding for the pedia seems to have suddenly gotten extremely buggy this week - maybe people should be requested to stop playing and adding info until some of these bugs can be fixed? It can't be easy to work on the coding when it keeps getting changed...
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Something is seriously broken at the moment -- articles are appearing and disappearing, seemingly at random, without any record in Recent Changes. I suggest taking a backup now, in case the site collapses.
On the other hand, speed is /excellent/ at the moment, but there's not much point in contributing, given that a) any edits might be lost, and b) making edits may destabilise the system further....
Regards,
Neil
----- Original Message ----- From: koyaanisqatsi@nupedia.com To: wikipedia-l@nupedia.com Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Bugs? or Features?
| We need an upload space where people who care & have the time can test new features on an active (but unpublicized) site before the features go live. |Wikipedia is crippled at the moment, and has been almost every time I've visited it in the last several months. When I go to a site on my broadband line at work |and it takes 5 minutes to bring up a page, that is IMO a crippled site. We can't expect the casual user to have any patience for it, and also can't expect new users |to want to come back.
same here, the 'pedia is dead. Funnily enough when I try to ping the server I get an 80% packet loss.
regards, WojPob
| kq | | | You Wrote: | >Another grrr... | > | >We seem to have lost the 'talk' page links from the pedia entirely, but | >I'm sure everyone's noticed it by now! | > | >And I noticed some requests on the recent changes pages for people NOT | >to make 'fill in text here' the contents of a page... I just did it by | >accident and then I couldn't get the page to load to re-edit it. | >Apparantly when you create a new page by redirecting it creates the | >page, but instead of sending you to the edit screen it dumped me into | >the pageview. | > | >The coding for the pedia seems to have suddenly gotten extremely buggy | >this week - maybe people should be requested to stop playing and adding | >info until some of these bugs can be fixed? It can't be easy to work on | >the coding when it keeps getting changed... | > | >-- | > | >Karen AKA Kajikit | > | >Come and visit my part of the web: | >Kajikit's Corner: http://Kajikit.netfirms.com/ | >Aussie Support Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieSupport | >Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: | >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating | > | >Love and huggles to all! | >[Wikipedia-l] | >To manage your subscription to this list, please go here: | >http://www.nupedia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l | >0
wojtek pobratyn wrote (on wikipedia-l):
same here, the 'pedia is dead. Funnily enough when I try to ping the server I get an 80% packet loss.
The technical discussion is taking place on wikitech-l@nupedia.com. This is a short summary and unofficial status report.
In the last few weeks, the Wikipedia webserver has been very slow, depending on new functions being added without enough concern about their performance under high load.
At 5 pm on Thursday May 9, Jimmy disabled some of the functions that consumed too much time, and there was an instant improvement in response time. The removed functionality include the "talk" links. The implementation is studied right now, and an improved version will probably be installed in the next few days. At this point, I don't think more programmers are needed, but if you want to stay informed, you can join the wikitech-l to follow the reports and discussions.
It is good to see that so many are concerned to have Wikipedia back in full operation, with all the necessary functionality. However, it does surprise me that so few were complaining about the absurdly slow response times in the week before.
There are still periods when the server seems totally unavailable, and the last hour seems to be one such case. In the preceeding 24 hours, the response time for the front page ranged from 0.95 to 12.31 seconds, with an average of 2.18 seconds. This could still be improved, but it is actually very fast for Wikipedia.
The problems are with the English Wikipedia, which receives most of the traffic. The international versions run on the same server, and are slowed down by the poor overall performance of the system.
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