Toby,
I didn't say I wanted MY town library to keep out smelly people (read that as "vagrants") or that I only go to classy "proper attire required" restaurants. Rev. Moon tells the story of how he was once confronted by a maitre d' who told him he had to wear a tie. He said "thank you" and left. He figured that if they had a rule like that they probably had a policy of not serving black people either.
I don't want the Wikipedia to exclude people with views I despise. I just don't want them to rip pages out of the books or put salt in the sugar dispenser.
Ed Poor
Ed Poor wrote:
I didn't say I wanted MY town library to keep out smelly people (read that as "vagrants") or that I only go to classy "proper attire required" restaurants.
I realise that you were only running with somebody else's analogy, but I could only respond to what was there. Don't worry, I don't attribute any opinions to you personally.
Rev. Moon tells the story of how he was once confronted by a maitre d' who told him he had to wear a tie. He said "thank you" and left. He figured that if they had a rule like that they probably had a policy of not serving black people either.
Probably jumping to conclusions, but in the right direction.
I don't want the Wikipedia to exclude people with views I despise. I just don't want them to rip pages out of the books or put salt in the sugar dispenser.
That sounds like vandalism; I'm on record as in favour of banning vandals. But the discussion that sparked the analogy was all of this stuff about expert approved subsets/forks/overlays/etc.
-- Toby
On 11/6/02 11:04 AM, "Toby Bartels" toby+wikipedia@math.ucr.edu wrote:
Ed Poor wrote:
jumping to conclusions, but in the right direction.
I don't want the Wikipedia to exclude people with views I despise. I just don't want them to rip pages out of the books or put salt in the sugar dispenser.
That sounds like vandalism; I'm on record as in favour of banning vandals. But the discussion that sparked the analogy was all of this stuff about expert approved subsets/forks/overlays/etc.
What's nice about Wikipedia is that noone *can* rip pages out of the books. They can put salt in the sugar dispenser.
What's nice about Wikipedia is that noone *can* rip pages out of the books. They can put salt in the sugar dispenser.
Since we are at it, is that Rebol stuff about bots generation true ??
http://www.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2002-November/000084.html
Brion ???
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On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:35, Anthere wrote:
What's nice about Wikipedia is that noone *can* rip pages out of the books. They can put salt in the sugar dispenser.
Since we are at it, is that Rebol stuff about bots generation true ??
http://www.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2002-November/000084.html
Brion ???
Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.
That it's easy to write bots that can post to the wiki using Rebol? My impression is that this is true, but I'm not very familiar with that language. Of course there's a potential for abuse, but that's not specific to Rebol;it's inherent in allowing random people to edit our site over the network.
Of course, if we ever do get massive spamming from a script, we can massively roll back the spam. (ie, we can take the salt back out of our coffee after some joker got us to pour it in.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:03:04PM -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
On Wed, 2002-11-06 at 09:35, Anthere wrote:
What's nice about Wikipedia is that noone *can* rip pages out of the books. They can put salt in the sugar dispenser.
Since we are at it, is that Rebol stuff about bots generation true ??
http://www.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2002-November/000084.html
Brion ???
Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the question.
That it's easy to write bots that can post to the wiki using Rebol? My impression is that this is true, but I'm not very familiar with that language. Of course there's a potential for abuse, but that's not specific to Rebol;it's inherent in allowing random people to edit our site over the network.
Brion is right. Rebol is just another language in which people can write scripts to spam the wikipedia. You can write one in Perl, C, Python, Scheme, Haskell, Mercury, or any number of other languages. It doesn't take much skill either.
Of course, if we ever do get massive spamming from a script, we can massively roll back the spam. (ie, we can take the salt back out of our coffee after some joker got us to pour it in.)
Correct.
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