Before going after other people's supposed GNU/FDL violations, we should realize that we don't follow the letter of it ourselves either. I found that the following provisions are broken by Wikipedia. Note that the Title Page of Wikipedia is defined in the GNU/FDL. If we consider each page a separate GNU/FDL document, it is the part between the title of the page and its text. If we consider Wikipedia a single document, it is probably above the text "Main Page" on the main page.
It seems that the smallest amount of broken rules comes when we consider Wikipedia as a "Collection of Documents" rather than "Combined Documents" or a single document, but in any case we break:
4B: We do not list the author of the last version plus at least five authors of the old version on the title page. 4E: We do not add a copyright notice each time a new document is created. 4F+addendum: The license notice of Wikipedia is not in the prescribed form, and it is not put on the title page 4I: Our history section is called "<title> Revision history" rather than "History".
And that's just the English version. Other languages have even greater problems. The German version already starts with not containing the GNU/FDL but only a link to it. Some of the minor languages have not even that.
Andre Engels
Some of Andre's comments show that a documentation license (designed for software manuals) may not be the best license to use for an online wiki knowledge base; regarding authorship, I have thought that the history pages and links to user pages fulfills all the authorship requirements of the license, technically the title page stuff does not make sense, but remember this license was written for software manuals, not for web pages.
Regarding any technical violations, I doubt that it amounts to anything more than a non-material breach as the spirit of the license is being followed, it would seem to me that if someone was using Wikipedia under the GNU FDL license that if they linked back to the page they got the material from and put a link to the page history for the authorship requirement that would show substantial compliance with the license, even without the link to the page history anyone who links back to the Wikipedia page is probably complying in a way to give all third parties sufficient notice to know that it is a copyleft license with original material and attribution being preserved.
When someone posts material on the wikipedia web site unless they licencing it (i.e. getting it from a GNU FDL source), they have the right to post it in any form they want, it is anyone who uses Wikipedia texts that is bound by the GNU FDL, not Wikipedia "itself". Regarding cutting and pasting between pages one could interpret the licence that someone gives Wikipedia as including such broad editing rights, certainly their is an non-exclusive license given to have one's texts posted on Wikipedia, however, moving it between pages does prevent one from knowing the attribution of the author unless someone figures out where the original page history resides. As the license granted to Wikipedia includes merciless editing, that should include moving the text to the place it belongs (if posted on the wrong page). Quaere: Is moving large blocks of a page a violation of this license granted to Wikipedia? Certainly the person who posted the material knows that it could be so moved so why shouldn't it be movable? alex756 ----- Original Message ----- "Andre Engels" engels@uni-koblenz.de said on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:40 AM
It seems that the smallest amount of broken rules comes when we consider Wikipedia as a "Collection of Documents" rather than "Combined Documents"
or
a single document, but in any case we break:
4B: We do not list the author of the last version plus at least five
authors
of the old version on the title page.
4E: We do not add a copyright notice each time a new document is created. 4F+addendum: The license notice of Wikipedia is not in the prescribed
form,
and it is not put on the title page
4I: Our history section is called "<title> Revision history" rather than "History".
wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org