To Fred Bauder:
There have been instances where Chinese troops have been undisciplined. All it proves is that people who have been desperately poor all their lives were tempted by wristwatches and ballpoint pens.
Do you know what you said is things about 20 years ago when I'm only a child? Do you know China have the most cell-phone users in the world now? Do you know China have ten million broadband Internet users, just after USA, Japan and Korea, and will surpass Korea soon? Yes, we are a developing country, but we are developing fast.
I have to say that the mailing list now is full of bias on China.
About Tibet problem, I provide some history issue to reflect the common opinion in China. Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama must be approved their identity by the central government since Qing dynasty hundreds years ago. Just in 1910s when China was very weak, there was a movment to divided Tibet from China. Great British took some part in the issue, And we dislike the colonialism role of Great British.
Perhaps today a wayward Chinese soldier would be tempted by a Blackberry. I think the prosperity of China is great. Live long and prosper...
Fred
From: "yuanml" yuanml@pku.org.cn Reply-To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:28:24 +0800 To: "wikipedia-l" wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
To Fred Bauder:
There have been instances where Chinese troops have been undisciplined. All it proves is that people who have been desperately poor all their lives were tempted by wristwatches and ballpoint pens.
Do you know what you said is things about 20 years ago when I'm only a child? Do you know China have the most cell-phone users in the world now? Do you know China have ten million broadband Internet users, just after USA, Japan and Korea, and will surpass Korea soon? Yes, we are a developing country, but we are developing fast.
I have to say that the mailing list now is full of bias on China.
About Tibet problem, I provide some history issue to reflect the common opinion in China. Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama must be approved their identity by the central government since Qing dynasty hundreds years ago. Just in 1910s when China was very weak, there was a movment to divided Tibet from China. Great British took some part in the issue, And we dislike the colonialism role of Great British.
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Is this a humiliation or prejudice against all Chinese? A bunch of robbers? If you have no understanding of real China, and only got all your false impressions of China from newspapers or magazines, then you better shut up.
Look back on history, though China had the most powerful navy and army since the 10th century, we did not want to conquer the whole world. Only the whites would go all around the world robbing and killing.
Prosperity of China is indeed great. At least we would not turn into another superpower that invades another country thousands of miles away.
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:27:02 -0600, Fred Bauder fredbaud@ctelco.net wrote:
Perhaps today a wayward Chinese soldier would be tempted by a Blackberry. I think the prosperity of China is great. Live long and prosper...
Fred
From: "yuanml" yuanml@pku.org.cn Reply-To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:28:24 +0800 To: "wikipedia-l" wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
To Fred Bauder:
There have been instances where Chinese troops have been undisciplined. All it proves is that people who have been desperately poor all their lives were tempted by wristwatches and ballpoint pens.
Do you know what you said is things about 20 years ago when I'm only a child? Do you know China have the most cell-phone users in the world now? Do you know China have ten million broadband Internet users, just after USA, Japan and Korea, and will surpass Korea soon? Yes, we are a developing country, but we are developing fast.
I have to say that the mailing list now is full of bias on China.
About Tibet problem, I provide some history issue to reflect the common opinion in China. Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama must be approved their identity by the central government since Qing dynasty hundreds years ago. Just in 1910s when China was very weak, there was a movment to divided Tibet from China. Great British took some part in the issue, And we dislike the colonialism role of Great British.
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'Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.' - Theodore Roosevelt, 19 April 1906
From: Jiong Sheng sheng.jiong@gmail.com Reply-To: Jiong Sheng sheng.jiong@gmail.com, wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 03:57:40 +0000 To: wikipedia-l@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
Is this a humiliation or prejudice against all Chinese? A bunch of robbers? If you have no understanding of real China, and only got all your false impressions of China from newspapers or magazines, then you better shut up.
Look back on history, though China had the most powerful navy and army since the 10th century, we did not want to conquer the whole world. Only the whites would go all around the world robbing and killing.
Prosperity of China is indeed great. At least we would not turn into another superpower that invades another country thousands of miles away.
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 06:27:02 -0600, Fred Bauder fredbaud@ctelco.net wrote:
Perhaps today a wayward Chinese soldier would be tempted by a Blackberry. I think the prosperity of China is great. Live long and prosper...
Fred
From: "yuanml" yuanml@pku.org.cn Reply-To: wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 12:28:24 +0800 To: "wikipedia-l" wikipedia-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia in China
To Fred Bauder:
There have been instances where Chinese troops have been undisciplined. All it proves is that people who have been desperately poor all their lives were tempted by wristwatches and ballpoint pens.
Do you know what you said is things about 20 years ago when I'm only a child? Do you know China have the most cell-phone users in the world now? Do you know China have ten million broadband Internet users, just after USA, Japan and Korea, and will surpass Korea soon? Yes, we are a developing country, but we are developing fast.
I have to say that the mailing list now is full of bias on China.
About Tibet problem, I provide some history issue to reflect the common opinion in China. Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama must be approved their identity by the central government since Qing dynasty hundreds years ago. Just in 1910s when China was very weak, there was a movment to divided Tibet from China. Great British took some part in the issue, And we dislike the colonialism role of Great British.
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Look back on history, though China had the most powerful navy and army since the 10th century, we did not want to conquer the whole world. Only the whites would go all around the world robbing and killing.
I'm not Chinese. Not remotely so. I do, however, know for a fact that China was practicing an active policy of imperialism until fairly recently in modern history. The emperor (take note of the term) fancied himself sovereign of a global dominion which included Europe, as dynastic literature tells us, and with the exception of a brief period of isolation during the 16th and 17th centuries China was as imperialist as they come.
Prosperity of China is indeed great. At least we would not turn into another superpower that invades another country thousands of miles away.
Perhaps because you're too busy oppressing your own people.
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:25:07 -0700, Austin Hair callidus@austinhair.org wrote:
I'm not Chinese. Not remotely so. I do, however, know for a fact that China was practicing an active policy of imperialism until fairly recently in modern history. The emperor (take note of the term) fancied himself sovereign of a global dominion which included Europe, as dynastic literature tells us, and with the exception of a brief period of isolation during the 16th and 17th centuries China was as imperialist as they come.
This is so ludicrous. I'm thankful Jimbo declared this thread over.
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
That is enough !
I will block from this mailing list the next person writing such a thing.
I am terribly serious here.
There is *no* place here for such rants.
Anthere
Austin Hair a écrit:
Look back on history, though China had the most powerful navy and army since the 10th century, we did not want to conquer the whole world. Only the whites would go all around the world robbing and killing.
I'm not Chinese. Not remotely so. I do, however, know for a fact that China was practicing an active policy of imperialism until fairly recently in modern history. The emperor (take note of the term) fancied himself sovereign of a global dominion which included Europe, as dynastic literature tells us, and with the exception of a brief period of isolation during the 16th and 17th centuries China was as imperialist as they come.
Prosperity of China is indeed great. At least we would not turn into another superpower that invades another country thousands of miles away.
Perhaps because you're too busy oppressing your own people.
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