Hi.
A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was given to him by another friend.
Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
* made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only * made by someone else for non-commercial use only
and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most OBVIOUS options are missing:
* made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence) * made by someone else and placed in the public domain
Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).
I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal, reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.
Very frustrated, Timwi
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Timwi timwi@gmx.net wrote:
Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
I didn't know anyone actually tried to use the drop-down menu. I think there's a page somewhere which lists and describes all valid image tags, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. This may indicate a more serious problem.
—C.W.
Charlotte Webb wrote:
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Timwi timwi@gmx.net wrote:
Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
I didn't know anyone actually tried to use the drop-down menu. I think there's a page somewhere which lists and describes all valid image tags, but I can't seem to find it at the moment. This may indicate a more serious problem.
If you, as an experienced user, can't find it, this does not bode well for newbies.
Ec
Some good news: media uploading is one of the critical items on the list of UI issues to fix.
Maury
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/Comprehensivehas them afaik. probably best to upload them to commons if they have a free license. cheers
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Timwi timwi@gmx.net wrote:
Hi.
A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was given to him by another friend.
Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
- made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only
- made by someone else for non-commercial use only
and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most OBVIOUS options are missing:
- made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence)
- made by someone else and placed in the public domain
Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).
I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal, reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.
Very frustrated, Timwi
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I think the assumed path is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload
then clicking second link to
Then in that drop down there should be the things you are looking for under "freely licensed" or "public domain".
The dropdown at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload is not that user friendly, but it's not that easy to get to either, unless you are familiar with special pages and/or have bookmarked it. I think the assumption now is the only people using that form would be expert users that might just prefer manual tagging and not going through the little path for newer people.
Maybe it's still linked to prominently somewhere forgotten though, no doubt... :)
Timwi -
That is indeed pretty egregious. I use that dialog all the time, but usually upload my own images and so didn't really attend to whether the other options are complete.
I agree that this should be fixed, and filed a bug: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20648
(I thought there would be one already but couldn't find it; please dup it if necessary)
SJ
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Timwi timwi@gmx.net wrote:
Hi.
A friend of mine just tried to upload an image to Wikipedia which was given to him by another friend.
Unfortunately the Upload page only provides the options:
- made by someone else for use on Wikipedia only
- made by someone else for non-commercial use only
and both of these options lead to a speedy-deletion warning. The most OBVIOUS options are missing:
- made by someone else and licenced as (whatever free/open licence)
- made by someone else and placed in the public domain
Because of this, he is forced to use a lower-quality image or no image at all (or to lie by claiming to be the author of the work).
I think this should be fixed as soon as possible so that normal, reasonable people can upload normal, reasonable images.
Very frustrated, Timwi
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