The domain http://www.wiki.produkt-mix2.de/ obviously copies content from the german language Wikipedia and is not complying to the GNU FDL at all.
What is more, they do not even mirror our content, they draw all content online and directly from our servers. Can we block them from accessing our servers somehow?
Uli
Ulrich Fuchs wrote:
The domain http://www.wiki.produkt-mix2.de/ obviously copies content from the german language Wikipedia and is not complying to the GNU FDL at all.
Please contact them and let them know your concerns: http://www.ihsl.de/impressum.htm
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Am Montag, 10. Mai 2004 22:16 schrieb Brion Vibber:
Ulrich Fuchs wrote:
The domain http://www.wiki.produkt-mix2.de/ obviously copies content from the german language Wikipedia and is not complying to the GNU FDL at all.
Please contact them and let them know your concerns: http://www.ihsl.de/impressum.htm
Contacting them because of not complying to the license could be a problem: I don't know how the legal situation is if they just tunnel our content and leave out the important bit - the content is not static; I cannot point them to an article and say: here is a copyright violation, you do not comply to the license, because the article is vanished.
We have a standard text for mirros not in comply and that always worked fine whenever we had to use it. I'm not sure if we should use it in this case, therefore I was asking if we have an easy implementable solution to block their (and of course only their) access technically. In the end, what they're doing is stealing bandwidth (they tunnel the article HTML and the images are directly served by us) - apart from the copyright issues.
Uli
Ulrich Fuchs wrote:
Am Montag, 10. Mai 2004 22:16 schrieb Brion Vibber:
Ulrich Fuchs wrote:
The domain http://www.wiki.produkt-mix2.de/ obviously copies content from
the german language Wikipedia and is not complying to the GNU FDL at all.
Please contact them and let them know your concerns: http://www.ihsl.de/impressum.htm
Contacting them because of not complying to the license could be a problem: I don't know how the legal situation is if they just tunnel our content and leave out the important bit - the content is not static; I cannot point them to an article and say: here is a copyright violation, you do not comply to the license, because the article is vanished.
We have a standard text for mirros not in comply and that always worked fine whenever we had to use it. I'm not sure if we should use it in this case, therefore I was asking if we have an easy implementable solution to block their (and of course only their) access technically. In the end, what they're doing is stealing bandwidth (they tunnel the article HTML and the images are directly served by us) - apart from the copyright issues.
So, what, it's *simpler* to silently block them than to drop them a note saying "hey, this seems a little unusual. It looks like you're tunneling our side and adding advertisements to it, which isn't really cool. You're welcome to mirror the content, of course, but you should serve the pages from your own servers -- here's a link to the public database dumps and the software we use to run it -- but make sure also to include the appropriate information and backlinks to comply with the license. Thanks!"
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Brion Vibber wrote:
So, what, it's *simpler* to silently block them than to drop them a note saying "hey, this seems a little unusual. It looks like you're tunneling our side and adding advertisements to it, which isn't really cool. You're welcome to mirror the content, of course, but you should serve the pages from your own servers -- here's a link to the public database dumps and the software we use to run it -- but make sure also to include the appropriate information and backlinks to comply with the license. Thanks!"
I 100% agree with Brion about this friendly approach to problems like this. Maybe they just didn't think things through clearly; maybe they thought this was fine. Only if they decide to be mean to us, we can use technical means to stop this. Otherwise, we should try to keep friendly with people who are trying to reuse our content.
--Jimbo
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