have we worked out what do to about this?
I propose:
1. no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the heading belongs to what is below it)
2. special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special markup, say
== compact heading ==!
tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com writes:
no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the heading belongs to what is below it)
special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special markup, say
== compact heading ==!
Care about contents, not about layout ;)
If you want a "compact heading" it's most probably not a section, but a simple keyword for a list; make it bold and your are done:
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- cut here -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
'''Current status:'''
;xxx : ready ;yyy : in the works ;zzz : obsolete
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- cut here -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
For more info cf. the bugs listed at:
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keichwa
Karl Eichwalder wrote:
tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com writes:
- no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the
heading belongs to what is below it)
- special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special
markup, say
== compact heading ==!
Care about contents, not about layout ;)
hey you're preaching to the choir here!! :-)
... actually, what we COULD do if the "compact" headings are only needed inside tables is this:
td h* { /* no space before or after */ }
in the CSS stylesheet.
and have one markup fits all
If you want a "compact heading" it's most probably not a section, but a simple keyword for a list; make it bold and your are done:
|From: tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com |X-Accept-Language: en-us, en |Sender: wikipedia-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:03:38 +0000 | |have we worked out what do to about this? | |I propose: | |1. no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the |heading belongs to what is below it) |
half a space after headings | |2. special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special |markup, say | |== compact heading ==! | no space after headings
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Tom Parmenter wrote:
| |have we worked out what do to about this? | |I propose: | |1. no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the |heading belongs to what is below it) |
half a space after headings | |2. special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special |markup, say | |== compact heading ==! | no space after headings
I'm happy with that :-)
the basic idea is that stray empty lines (which are often added to wiki markup after headings for legibility of the markup) no longer make presentation alterations.
(tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com):
the basic idea is that stray empty lines (which are often added to wiki markup after headings for legibility of the markup) no longer make presentation alterations.
It is my intent that the presence or absence of a blank line in between a header and the following paragraph should make no difference at all in the resulting output, which should be a header element followed by a paragraph element.
|From: tarquin tarquin@planetunreal.com |X-Accept-Language: en-us, en |Sender: wikipedia-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 23:46:08 +0000 | | | |Tom Parmenter wrote: | |>| |>|have we worked out what do to about this? |>| |>|I propose: |>| |>|1. no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the |>|heading belongs to what is below it) |>| |> |>half a space after headings |>| |>|2. special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special |>|markup, say |>| |>|== compact heading ==! |>| |>no space after headings |> |> |> |I'm happy with that :-) | |the basic idea is that stray empty lines (which are often added to wiki |markup after headings for legibility of the markup) no longer make |presentation alterations. | | | | |> |> |> | | |_______________________________________________ |Wikipedia-l mailing list |Wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l |
Presence or absence of white space after a header is part of the information content. A half-space of white before the text, says this header precedes something to read, while the closed up header says that header is being used, in effect, as table header, not in a table, but as part of a more tight-knit a matrix of information.
Tom Parmenter Ortolan88
Tarquin wrote:
- no space after headings -- only before (looks cleaner in text -- the
heading belongs to what is below it)
- special "compact" headings with no space after OR before get special
markup, say == compact heading ==!
The most natural markup for the editor is to let the absence or presence of a blank line indicate the absence or presence of a space in the output. This is true both before and after the header.
I am assuming that we have reason to allow both versions, and the output should be given by style sheets in preference to HTML kludges that don't even work in XHTML. But we all know that.
-- Toby
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