I recently posted a draft that folks might be interested in:
http://reagle.org/joseph/2004/agree/wikip-agree.html [[[ A Case of Mutual Aid: Wikipedia, Politeness, and Perspective Taking ... This paper explores the character of “mutual aid” and interdependent decision making within the Wikipedia. I provide a brief introduction to Wikipedia, the key terms associated with group decision making, and the Wikipedia dispute resolution process. I then focus on the cultural norms within Wikipedia that frame participation as a cooperative endeavor. I conclude by identifying some notions from negotiation literature that may be inappropriate or require adaptation to the Wikipedia case. ]]]
I would be interested in any feedback, including corrections of my characterization of Wikipedia and any pointers to historical archives that shed light on both the "epistemological stance" and norms of politeness. I expect the former came from Larry Sanger and was present in the Nupedia as well, and the latter is part of Jimbo Wales's personality. Regardless of this that this week on questions of expertise, I find these two variables to be rather complementary as I discuss further in the paper.
Joseph Reagle wrote:
I would be interested in any feedback, including corrections of my characterization of Wikipedia and any pointers to historical archives that shed light on both the "epistemological stance" and norms of politeness. I expect the former came from Larry Sanger and was present in the Nupedia as well, and the latter is part of Jimbo Wales's personality.
Actually, NPOV comes from me.
--Jimbo
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:18, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
Actually, NPOV comes from me.
Ok, that was just a guess -- I'm looking forward to digging into the origins of the core policies, including who or what group is responsible for the good manners? ;)
Joseph Reagle wrote:
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:18, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
Actually, NPOV comes from me.
Ok, that was just a guess -- I'm looking forward to digging into the origins of the core policies, including who or what group is responsible for the good manners? ;)
Jimbo has certainly set the example, but I think a good bit of it is a sort of "social Darwinism" :-) - editors are self-selected and tend to be content-focussed (there's so much to do!), while the bouts of arguing and namecalling suck up time and energy. So although there are high-profile exceptions, nastiness is basically an unsuccessful strategy; even if the nasty manages to chase one person away from an article, at some point other people show up, some thicker-skinned than the previous, and eventually the nasty gets tired and gives up. I've been able to get my way in some cases by doing nothing more than waiting for three months.
The Darwinistic process does depend on a large-ish population of editors; from what I hear, the smaller WPs are much more likely to be held hostage by a bad editor.
Stan
On Tuesday 04 January 2005 15:18, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
Actually, NPOV comes from me.
Ok, that was just a guess -- I'm looking forward to digging into the origins of the core policies, including who or what group is responsible for the good manners? ;)
As far as I am concerned, that would also be Jimbo.
Itself a subset of wikilove.
--- Joseph Reagle reagle@mit.edu wrote:
I'm looking forward to digging into the origins of the core policies, including who or what group is responsible for the good manners? ;)
As far as I am concerned, that would also be Jimbo.
It falls under the concept of wikilove.
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On Tuesday 04 January 2005 17:22, Christopher Mahan wrote:
Itself a subset of wikilove.
Ah, thanks!
On Jan 4, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales wrote:
Joseph Reagle wrote:
I would be interested in any feedback, including corrections of my characterization of Wikipedia and any pointers to historical archives that shed light on both the "epistemological stance" and norms of politeness. I expect the former came from Larry Sanger and was present in the Nupedia as well, and the latter is part of Jimbo Wales's personality.
Actually, NPOV comes from me.
--Jimbo
Which is why you are getting a chunk of lines in my book.
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