Apparently, you did not read my message.
The main complaint was about how the decisions were not made by real
contributors, but mostly by "invaders" who came only to argue and
vote, and left immediately after the vote concluded.
Now, I think that you certainly have the right to contribute to a
decision-making process, having contributed significantly to mo.wiki;
however this is not the case for most of the participants in the vote,
whose only contributions were to talkpages (or, in the case of a
couple, with two or three cosmetic changes to content pages to attempt
to make themselves look like legitimate contributors).
Even if the vote had said to close down mo.wiki, I do not think that
would ever have happened because:
There are real people who use the Cyrillic script for their language,
and it is currently the only script allowed in education in the
breakaway Pridniestrian Moldovan Republic (aka Transdniestr), for all
official languages -- Moldovan, Ukrainian, and Russian.
The main reasonings for closing mo.wiki were 100% illogical:
1) Because Cyrillic is ugly;
2) Because Cyrillic is a Stalinist tool for the seperation of the
Moldovan peoples from "their Romanian brethren";
3) Because Cyrillic is a relic of the past, and all people still using
it must be ignorant or Stalinist, and thus should be ignored entirely
because such people do not deserve a Wikipedia;
4) Because the Moldovan Wikipedia is a terrorist pithole (Anittas said
that, it made me laugh, compared to the other reasons which made me
disappointed in the most basic logic and reason which I previously
thought to be universal traits of human beings);
5) The official script in Moldova since 1989 is the Roman alphabet,
and no other nation recognises Transdniestr, so we should completely
ignore the people using the script because it's not official;
6) Because it is offensive to the people of Moldova (this reason is
especially illogical because all of the people who said it were
Romanians);
7) Because using Cyrillic to write limba noastra is a perversion or
some other thing basically equivalent with linguistic nationalistic
blasphemy;
and numerous other reasons which would be laughed at by any sane
disinterested party.
There is some disagreement as to whether or not Moldovan is an
independent language, however there is no disagreement that Cyrillic
is still used to write it by some people and is taught in the schools
of Transdniestr (Schools teaching the Roman alphabet were declared to
be operating illegally as public schools and shut down, so only
Cyrillic-teaching schools remain).
The Moldovan Wikipedia now has well over 100 articles, so if a new
vote were called, and the invaders tipped the scale and voted for its
deletion or closure in some other manner, there would simply be
nothing to consider and the matter would be closed with the status quo
respected.
Mark
On 23/08/05, Wikipedia Romania (Ronline) <rowikipedia(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Node, the Ronline proposal was basically a proposal
to
*save* the Moldovan Wikipedia with a few compromises.
I don't know why you're saying that the result
"could've tipped the other way". The other way was the
shutting down of the Moldovan Wikipedia. The Ronline
proposal basically enabled the Moldovan Wikipedia to
go forward, which is why it was voted by all the three
users you claim are legitimate (me, you and Dmitriid).
Had Gabix been given the right to vote, I am nearly
certain he would have voted for the Ronline proposal
(instead of the shutting down option).
I have observed your arguments with many people on the
Moldovan language and Romanian language articles on
Wikipedia (and mostly I have chosen not to involve
myself) but I think that you need to understand that
in a case like this, compromise is necessary. The
"chirilica" inclusion *is* necessary and is a
reasonable compromise. The only way to have voted
against that inclusion was to have voted against the
Ronline proposal, in which case the Moldovan Wikipedia
would have been shut down. You had the chance to make
an amendment even, and yet you didn't. Dmitriid made
one (about Wikipedia in romana instead of Wikipedia
Romania, I think) and his was voted in.
However, as I said on the Moldovan Wikipedia, anyone
has the chance to propose a new proposal or call a
vote on the existing proposal or model. So, if you're
unhappy about the chirilica inclusion, then propose an
amendment and put it up for voting. Until that, the
Ronline proposal must be fully implemented, because it
was voted in, and one of the inclusions must be the
chirilica interwiki.
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