Jonathan Walther <krooger(a)debian.org> wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:01:31AM -0800, Bridget [name omitted for privacy reasons] wrote: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you want Americans to stop destroying other cultures, you won't accomplish it be trying to destroy American culture. Americans have as much right to their culture as anyone else has to theirs. Jonathan It might be best not to answer to that kind of message, maybe. See how Lir is trying to irritate each of us in turns. Wikipedians in americans and others. British and others. French and vietnamese. Promoting similar reactions, such as european and americans (hey, Eclecticology, aren't you canadian ?). Bugging people and antagonizing them is just one way some follow to express themselves. They can do so. You can choose not to answer. I'll be glad if people could agree that - HERE at least - we are more wikipedians than french, american, german or whatever. Let's stick together for godsake ! Learning from each others and recognising our differences will help more for the preservation of each cultural identity than throwing into faces painful assumptions and worn-out statements. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Yes, she does. She's said so frequently. Zoe tarquin <tarquin(a)planetunreal.com> wrote: Do you think the French wikipedia should write "london" instead of "londres"? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

explication: c'etait au sujet de Lir, celle / celui que Jimbo a aujourd'hui barr'e du EN-Wiki. Lir a monte une campagne contre l'anglicization des noms propres, et aurai voulu qu'on ait, par ex., une page "Munchen" au lieu de "Munich". pour remuer un peu, j'avais dit -- et les autres langues? faut-il qu'elles aussi utilises les noms propres etrangers dans leur forme d'origine? c'etait purement de la rhetorique. je passerai voir "Londres", mais je previens que j'ai du mal a taper les accents, meme sur mon Mac. Anthere wrote:

L'interpretation des accents par les ordinateurs est au-delà de mes compréhension. À l'heure actuelle je m'en sers d'un clavier franco-canadien. En effet ça veut dire un clavier ou les lettres sont placées de la façon américaine, avec des clefs spéciales qu'il faut pour écrire le français. Quand-même, je m'en sers avec un logiciel anglais. Pour qu'il fonctionne comme il faut j'aurais besoin de changer des préférences dans mon système, ce qui me causerait de nouvelles peines. Mais je m'habitue, et pour écrire "é", par example, je m'en sers de Alt + 0233. Ça devrait fonctionner car si mon texte est cité dans une réponse, il est tout en forme. Ce qui me confond sont les textes que je reçois. J'ai bien copié le texte ci-dessus de ton messagee, et les lettres accentées ont l'air bien rendu. Mais dans le courriel que j'ai reçu toutes ces lettres accentées sont représenter pae un espèce de carreau noir contenant un point d'interogation.. Je ne comprends pas comment ça peut arriver. Eclecticology

On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 22:22, Anthere wrote: Bit by bit; problem areas are being identified and optimized. In particular, the slowest operations tend to bog down everything when traffic is high, because other pages have to wait on them to finish. Right now I'm going through and adding indexes for user id and user name; this *vastly* speeds up the 'user contributions' pages. (Note that as I add the indexes, the various wikis may be briefly unavailable for a few moments.) I've also just made a tweak to "Most wanted pages" which for the English wiki takes the generation time down from about 90 seconds to about 30. Still too long, but it's an improvement. In the middle of the day the whole database server was bogged down somehow for a while until I killed and restarted Apache and MySQL; this may or may not be related to weird segfaults I was seeing from the PHP cache system when running my experimental RDF generator script (see http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDF_spool ). (I've disabled it for the meantime on the off chance it was causing trouble.) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

Are you serious, or are you being facetious? Tarquin's was in response to Lir's comments regarding americanizatin of the Wikipedia. I was responding to was his question to Lir. Zoe Anthere <anthere5(a)yahoo.com> wrote:You know Zoe, most of your posts are a real mystery to me... Who is she ? Is it okay to answer "yes she does" to a "do you think this should be" ? Since when is an encyclopedia talking ? What is "frequent" ? Did you ever go on the french wiki and check the "Londres" article (please some bilingual do something for that poor lonesome city...) I am at a loss really --- Zoe wrote: __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I think a lot of the problem has to do with the fact that Yahoo forces us to put our replies at the top instead of interspsersed through the message. If we could do that, it would be much easier to follow. Zoe Anthere <anthere5(a)yahoo.com> wrote:Sorry, no I was serious. I'm absolutely not a facetious person :-) the top of the message was missing...I just missed a step...boum Excuse me Zoe PS : about the strange duplication of messages (apart from potential quadripletion from the tech, the inter, the main and the en), I remember it started when we moved from nupedia to wikipedia.org. Could it be still related ? --- Zoe wrote: http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now